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Is it camp though? GAP and the messy politics of lesbian representation

We did it folks, Asia’s first full-length Girls Love. There is a lot to say about what GAP represents. As the name suggests, this was an earnest attempt to well, close the gap for lesbian representation in Thai cinema, which is mostly known for its variety of BL content. It's a groundbreaking drama that's breaking barriers for sure, but did it break the mold of mediocrity? This review will be a wild ride so let’s strap in (no pun intended!).

I’ve been advised to go easy on this drama and I will do my best. I fully recognize what GAP means and represents for Asian sapphics, and I also recognize that no one involved in this was going for art-house cinema. And I myself am also not immune to charming cheesy trash. But I can’t write this review without addressing GAP’s quality in some capacity.

Since I am trying my hardest not to lose my lesbian-license it might be a good idea to ease in with the good stuff:
GAP’s cinematography is a bit of a hot mess but it does have its more stylish moments. Surprisingly enough those ended up being the sex scenes. I genuinely felt like these were the visuals that the director put the most thought into (I will not comment on how I feel about that) and I appreciated that GAP didn’t feel the need to dial the steaminess down just because it featured two women instead of men. This was an aspect I had been largely worried about before GAP even aired. If BLs are produced primarily for a female audience, would that mean GAP would be produced for a male audience? The fact that the director/producer was male, didn’t ease my concerns. I feared that what I would be served was bound to be a product of sheer fetishization. But I also did not want GAP to feel sexless, just because it had female protagonists. Women having sexual desires is cool actually. Well, I am happy to report that I actually had no issue with how GAP portrayed lesbian sexuality. The male gaze might be impossible to escape but it was subtle enough that I, a bitter lesbian, could still get something out of those scenes.
I struggle with critiquing an actor’s performance, especially if it’s in a language I am not very familiar with, but I will say that Sam’s actress Freen brought a lot of charm and humor to her role. Sam is a bit of a bitch and while I don’t think that her character was executed brilliantly, I also recognize that a lot of measures were taken to make her more likable, which is an effort I can appreciate. One of those was making Sam sufficiently awkward, something that the actress embodied pretty well (maybe because she did feel a bit awkward, who’s to say). I appreciate this effort even more so, after I have been informed, that Sam actually behaves a lot worse in the source material. I think softening those edges was the right move for sure. But script changes aside, I thought that Freen’s characterization came across as charming either way. Charisma is a difficult thing to evaluate because it’s very subjective and also innate to a person, so it might be something that you can’t really praise someone for but I do think that Freen really did the absolute best with the material she was given.
I don’t want to imply that my favorite aspect of a lesbian love story was a male character but I do have to earnestly commend the show for Kirk. The show’s main antagonist is Sam’s grandma, someone so comically evil that all that’s missing is a big mustache she can twirl. Kirk is not that. In fact, Kirk is the guy that everyone at the office loves. Someone that at first glance might even seem like an ally. The guy your friends insist you should marry because he seems “like one of the good ones”. And Kirk is an absolute douchebag. This was a character that appeared likable, had solid motives for the way he behaved, genuinely believed he was doing the right thing, and he still managed to be a huge asshole in a way you had to build up to. Kirk didn’t “suddenly turn out to be evil” because he isn’t and he never has been. But his crime was entitlement. He believed he was entitled to the company as he believed he was entitled to Sam. It’s, dare I say, an attempt at social commentary, that managed to be both subtle and effective all in a show that tended to be painfully on the nose. Kirk as an antagonist amidst the mess was truly a breath of fresh air, I think the casting choice was also great. Choosing some BL-heartthrob to portray him was the right call.
I guess as far as representation goes, this is pretty solid. We obviously have two morally dubious sapphic disasters for our protagonists but we also have one trans woman who is not entirely played for laughs (and one that is….) and a butch/masc lesbian which is something you rarely see on TV these days. None of these characters are entirely “unproblematic“ representation but that is also such a boring standard to uphold so I can live with a little messiness if it means that we get a more diverse cast.
This is such a small thing and I am not sure if it even was intentional, but the OST when something 〜shady〜 was going on and when Sam and Mon were getting down to business were pretty much alike. This furthered the impression that their relationship was a bad and ominous thing that was happening. This might not have been what the show (that presumably is first and foremost trying to be a love story) was trying to imply, but since I have been blessed with both eyes and a brain, this was a conclusion I inevitably arrived at. The OST seemed to point at the concept that Sam’s and Mon’s inherent toxicity was supposed to be text instead of subtext, which I thought was neat at least.

The bad:
One fun fact about me is that I have severe scoliosis and awful posture which is why my physician ordered me to do extensive physical therapy for an entire year. This painful progress might have been erased entirely by sitting through this show as I had to watch it with my head permanently tilted. I am not exaggerating, nearly every second shot of GAP is a Dutch-angle (tilted picture). Sometimes this made sense. A Dutch-angle creates a certain uncomfortableness, an eeriness if you will. Also: Sam is in a higher position than Mon. The scales are tipped. But more often than not this was a creative decision that puzzled me. It’s obvious that the director just thought it looked cool so he decided to use it ALL THE GOD DAMN TIME WITH NO THOUGHT IN MIND. I thought about making a drinking game out of it but that would have been a genuine health hazard.
What is it that this company does? This is an office romance but I m not even sure what this office is ordered to do. Something something social media something something. I wouldn’t care about this if it didn’t play such a big role in the overall plot. Also: Sam wants to keep her company and we’re supposed to think that she is deserving of that but we never see her work ever. It is implied that she is harsh on her workers because their performance determines whether she can keep living her life or will be married off. Well girl, how about you do some work then? I get it, it’s inherent to the cruel nature of the exploitative capitalistic system that the CEO never does any actual work and only leeches of their employees so this is quite accurate to real life but GAP is a silly romance and I am supposed to root for the undeservedly rich. I can’t do that if I never see Sam actually achieve anything. Every little success is due to the work of someone else and it’s not because of her management style but despite of it. To a wage worker like me, this is quite the hard sell. And I actually kind of like Sam and for her to be a bitch and a bad boss at the start of this show is fine, but we never see the needed character development from her. Sure, she warms up a bit, but arguably not nearly enough to excuse her prior behavior.
Sam and Mon suck. Not nearly as much as individuals as they do as a couple. It’s not so much that they’re unhealthy, I think the show knew that to some extent and I don’t think all love stories in fiction need to represent what is desirable in real-life. It’s more that they were… annoying? Which is a weak criticism, I’ll admit. But their constant bickering never seemed worth what they were getting out of the relationship. I was never sold entirely on their love. They had chemistry, sure, but that is very little to build a relationship on. If this was supposed to be a fatal-attraction sort of deal where they cannot keep away from each other despite how unhappy they make each other, this drama also failed to address that in a productive way. I like messiness and flawed, dumb people (I myself belong to said demographic), but Sam and Mon only seemed to always reunite because the narrative needed them to. Not because they were good together or it seemed like something either of the characters would want.
The sound quality was pretty atrocious in a way that I can't explain how it even got like this. Some passages of dialog were completely fine while others sounded like they were recorded with a fork. But I am not a casual lakorn-watcher and I have been informed that for a production of this size and budget, this is quite normal so this is probably just something you have to get used to and I am willing to let this one go.
I want to address the plot but it’s difficult to critique something there is so little of. Which is fine, intricacy is not what anyone watched this for. I guess the story is best described by things happening. One thing happens and then another one. Are those events correlated? Who is to say. But things certainly kept happening, that’s for sure.

So, is GAP an amazing show? God no. Is it an okay show? Also no. Should you watch this? I don’t know, I honestly don’t. I don’t know if I am capable of celebrating something solely for what it might represent. And I can’t recommend this show no matter which framework I use to analyze it. But yet I find myself wanting to. I once wrote that there are two schools of thought when it comes to LGBT+ representation: Either “we want stories that represent our experience, even if painful at times” or “we want access to the same rom-com escapism that heterosexuals get”. And personally, I see value in both. The problem is that I don’t think that GAP managed to deliver either one though I can certainly see attempts in both. There are some hints of social commentary and there definitely is the over-the-top rom-com storyline. But GAP is not good, it simply isn’t.

Is it camp though?

Define “camp”, please. Well, camp describes “art or entertainment that deliberately does not follow traditional ideas about what is considered good in order to produce a humorous effect”. The two types of camp that exist today are purposeful camp and unintended camp. As the name implies, intentional camp refers to the purposeful use of camp in humor. Unintentional camp results from naïveté or poor quality or tastes. It’s “so bad it’s good”, it’s the love of the unnatural, artificiality and exaggeration. This sounds like an insult but truth is that camp and the LGBT+ community have been intertwined from the beginning. Being excluded from mainstream society and mainstream art meant that we had to create our own. And this is where we got our ability to celebrate the ugly and weird. Camp evaluates tasteless kitsch whereas the bourgeois feuilleton high culture scorns it. The camp's level of sensitivity ranges from intense adulation to sardonic, disinterested amusement. Therefore, the definition of kitsch and camp is mostly subjective. And in my subjective perspective, when I look at GAP and see the nonsensical plot, the questionable performances, the Dutch-angles, the fake crying, and the constant yelling, I see camp.
Is this too little of a basis to recommend something? That is up to you but this is the hill I choose to die on.

I understand why so many people needed this to be good. One of my first comments on here reads “If this show turns out to be bad, I will simply gaslight myself into thinking it’s good”. It’s not just the lesbian representation, it’s the longing for a story that is not dependent on men. And now that GAP failed to be even passable, there is the fear, that no one in Thailand’s entertainment industry will ever try again to produce a WLW-story. But truth be told, I think we will be fine. I have never been a BL-watcher but according to all sources, Asia’s first BL was absolute dogshit and yet the genre found its niche. More importantly, however, while successful representation is undeniably incredibly important, social progress comes first. Good LGBT shows, books, and movies have always followed social changes in the real world, not the other way around. As East Asia becomes more progressive, the entertainment they produce will inevitably diversify. But we shouldn’t put our hopes and dreams in these capitalistic constructs. Our liberation should not be dependent on how much money people can make off us. Instead of hoping that rich men in production companies tell our stories we need to get out there and fight for the rights and resources to tell them ourselves.

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MatildaBoey
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MUST WATCH DRAMA

Excellent GL drama series. Freen Sarocha portrays the BEST Khun Sam with her excellent acting skills.

The narrative between both lead actresses are touching, soft and absolutely beautiful.

I am not a fan of roncoms but this series hits different though I do not speak or understand thai language. The emotions and attention that they placed into all the details are just spectacular I highly recommend this drama, waiting and hoping for both lead actresses to have another series together
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TanHuiFang
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Definitely have to complete this show! 12 episodes are too little. Want it longer to have a more complete drama series

Love this series so much that i cant even watch any other show right now.

Thank you for producing such an amazing show. And the actors and actresses are really the best. They had chosen the right people to film this show!

Hope this show can reach out to more people, and also allow more people to understand the LGBT community. All the best! Hoping for movie or season 2
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Life Changing

I suppose I have to write a review for GAP. I have said it in the comment section already, but this show was life changing to me. I have never seen a story that cares so deeply about representing the joy and beauty of being a woman in love with another woman, even in the face of adversity. Sam and Mon's love story is accurate to the real life sapphic experience in so many ways. From the way they show affection, the difficulty to comprehend their feelings at first, to the feeling of relief and plenitude when they finally allow themselves to feel what their hearts want to feel.
I understand if it doesn't resonate with some people the way it did with me. It can be cheesy, the situations might seem absurd and exaggerated at times, the characters actions might not be the most logical, the side characters are not the most complex. But everything made it all the more delightful in my eyes. It is ultimately a fun, colorful story, that eventually deals with some more serious topics.
Give it a chance, especially if you are a woman who loves women. Even if you don't love it as much as I did, I believe you will at least have a nice time watching these characters fall in love.

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jang shi lee
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happy ending?

gap the series is very good and the characterization by the actor is very good and

very animating the actor is very good at expressing expressions and animating the

characters in gap yuri and sam mon are very
suitable to be partners they are very romantic

and animating and there is a very good ending too which is funny, sad and romantic and I hope

this gap the series series is a success and

hopefully Freenbecky returns to play his role together again

very good series gap yuri?
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feb 13, 2023
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Musica 8.0
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Disappointed for the first GL ever

I wanted to like this so bad because we're finally getting GL representation, to the point were I had to force myself to continue this show. Story was meh at best, not even a good typical story, I did feel like nothing made sense, neither in their relationship nor with the environment around them. I will admit that the actors did their best with what they were given, but the whole story was handled poorly.
Also am I the only one who felt like the side characters were guests on the show? we don't know anything about them.
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gen 20, 2023
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it's GL and i love GL series

I stayed up all night watching it and I'm a little groggy now. The movie is roughly sixteen-years long, but well worth it! It's a twisty psychological-thriller and black-comedy that keeps you guessing as to what will happen next. Chan Wook-Park keeps the momentum going with his breath-taking cinematography, shocking twists and gleefully black humor. I watched it until well after midnight and had no idea how much time had passed until it was over whereupon I collapsed on my bed only then realizing how sleepy I was. I didn't noticed at any point during the movie. Thanks again, Mr. Park for blessing us movie fans with your mad genius!

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mar 18, 2023
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Storia 7.0
Acting/Cast 9.0
Musica 7.5
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Is it original? No. Is it a must watch? YES

The story is not new, we've all seen boss and employee couples before. But guys!! This is a GL. How many GLs have you seen?? With this much duration??? I was so happy to finally have a girls love series in Thailand that was actually entretaining. Although I was excited to watch, I expected something very mediocre. And it kinda was at first since the other employees in the company were somewhat annoying, but then other things got in the way and it was really exciting. Freen and Becky have so much chemistry and their characters were so cute. Not only cute but they had NC scenes that were great. We've only seen a few women together before in thai shows and not much NC scenes so I was very happy. Of course there was way too much lesbian drama but I should've seen it coming, right?

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Mon (Becky) and Sam (Freen) are a breath of fresh air. Their chemistry is so refreshing and electrifying and how they gave life to their characters was truly amazing! Among the GL Series that I have watched, this is a natural romance, outstanding acting. Overall, Gap The Series is casted very well. It is a good adaptation named from the novel itself and well-written. Very Good Production Team, Staff, Casts, Fan, Supporters. I am happy rewatching all the scenes and can't wait for awards and recognitions for this show worldwide.
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Felt like Mon's biography rather than romance

This series did exceed my expectations in many ways, since I've read a ridiculous novel (let's leave that misogynistic and internalised homophobic lesbian author aside. Credits goes to uninterested scriptwriter. She didn't like novel. Seems obvious to me. So she wasn't too invested). Maybe, it's a biased standard to measure expectations. I honestly didn't think this series would be sucessful but it did and it's popularity soared in Thai mainstream media. However, it's still objectively not perfect just like most traditonal lakorn-quality series. This series is actually an attempt to morph tropes into different outcomes. Sam may seem like a typical rich male lead but it turned out that she wasn't. Thai male leads are often smart, powerful, saves a woman, brave etc. But instead, she was completely opposite of usual qualities male leads have. In fact, Mon is much closer to these male leads' qualities while seeming like a stereotypical female lead. Villainous grandma trope was actually a "clickbait." She was a portrayal of older heteronormative generation, but it felt little rushed at times. Top/bottom trope was defied, lurking us into thinking Sam is the top in ep 8 but ep 9 proves us wrong. They are a switch just like a novel's version. Idolization trope turned into actual representation of certain queer experience. You may not relate to it, she was influenced by heteronormativity enough to fail to negotiate her sexuality. She clearly had a crush and thinking it is a idolization until ep 6 where she explores her feelings for Sam. Some queer women, including me, did experience what Mon experienced. Nice guy trope turned into the reality of meritocracy. Kirk and Nop are a mirror of each other. Third party trope turned into "unneccesry and doesn't need to continue." That's why Nita didn't appear again. Transwoman trope, turned out to be one of sanest characters in this series. She wasn't used as a punching bag and wasn't portrayed as a stalker-ish effems who are obsessed with sex. It was common in thai lakorns. There are several tropes that went to different outcomes but these tropes above are what i pinpoint. That being said, Gap the series is trying to throw CH3 lakorn's usual directions away. That's pretty good, ngl.

But still, i don't think this series was that good in terms of pacing and storylines. I feel like this series was more focused on Mon's pov even in Sam's perspectives. Sometimes, Sam seemed like a support role in certain episodes. They never showed us her side and her character development is here but too subtle and it was like she privately developed without us seeing it. Her side was skipped a lot. I do understand plotlines very well but i feel like scriptwriting poorly coordinated an empathetic approach towards Sam. It's also too cultural, limiting understandings amongst interfans. Thai viewers could figure it out easily and effortlessly. So i guess interfans weren't their targeted audience? Nah, this series had small budget considering CEO of Idolfactory decided to follow his ideology stubbornly by investing all of his expenses and life savings alongside with his mother's life savings as she wanted to help him. He had several problems in the production team, dealing with conflicts of interest in musical composition and casting. Director kept on trying to make everything artistic and symbolic. Some of it works but others don't. Nevermind, it was average for me. They had to do everything in a short time, it was too late to change the novel. What's done is done. I hope it is a lesson for Saint to select better novels. Not just GLs but also BLs. I understand that he's young and inexperienced since he opened this company as a safer space for actors/actresses 2 years ago. He succeed it at least, but he needs to reconsider the creative issues and learn how to choose better stories.

Lovescenes were correctly done and portrayed with a care. Saint and director admitted that they were super cautious. It showed a result. FreenBecky did a good job in depicting an intimacy in a sapphic lovemaking scene. Production team made sure it was comfortable for them. They made sure cameraworks were safe. Saint also said that he would say "cut" if he notices a detail of discomfort. It turns out that FreenBecky were super comfortable with each other. Didn't feel male gaze-y somehow. It's also admirable that they shot scenes with no direction, no pratice, no choreography or no rehearsal. All improvised. They even said that love scenes were the easiest for them. They both are newbies, it's not easy. Their acting isn't perfect. Becky worked hard for language that is not her primary usage. She had more scenes and dialogues than Freen. Again, it also proves that Mon is, indeed, the only pov we are seeing. They both have potentials. It's good idea for them to play in gap the series so they can work on their skills. So they can improve for better projects. Maybe, that's what the company doing? Start with small things to prepare for better projects? They also did it with BillySeng. If so, there's still a hope for the future of FreenBecky's better GL project. They annouced that they aren't doing season 2 for gap the series but another project. Finally.

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nov 23, 2022
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SUNSHINE and GRUMPHY??? [BOUND TO FALL IN LOVE]

This was one of the most hyped series of 2022 for sure. I mean literally everyone was waiting for this to air. Firstly cuz i think its the first proper Thai GL we have ever gotten and secondly cuz even with so much BL popularity nowadays we sadly don't have many GL to look into. I mean i could literally count the number of GL series available online worldwide which is actually sad.

I was trying to manage my expectations because the hype for this has been so strong and I didn't want to be disappointed, but holy hell this delivered! Even with the first episode mostly being used to introduce the characters/plot, it was so well done!!!! Even the clichés felt fresh, because WOMEN!!!!!

I can't believe we have a office romance with the cold CEO trope and I am so thankful they didn't go the school route. Office romance remains superior and adding SUNSHINE and GRUMPHY to the mix??? THATS THE RECIPE FOR A MASTERPIECE.

I love our leads & also kirk as well. Sam is a softie with a tough exterior & Mon has a good heart. Typical, but still the best office romance.
Even though Sam is meant to be an ice princess, the actress is doing so well in putting a tinge of sadness behind her persona. The uncomfortable tension that Sam brought to the workplace whenever she entered the room. Her whole vibes scream BOSS BITCH, and i love it.
Then there's Mon who is just a sweetheart, a ray of sunshine on the mission to melt the ice princess. HER ICE PRINCESS.

AND CAN WE HAVE 2 MINUTE SILENCE FOR THOSE OUTFITS???? CUZ holy shit, they were sexy as hell and suit there personality so well. I mean beauty with brain and add money to the mix?? I CAN'T.

Anyway I think this will be a revolutionary GL and can be the start of more GL series to come in the future.

THOUGH PLZZZZZ not that house again I swear, LOL.
They keep recycling the same sets in Thai BLs, didn't expect to see it in a GL as well pfft. I'm pretty sure every BL watcher knows that house by now. That place has become a character itself! From Don't say no and Cutie Pie to The Eclipse and then also Unforgotten Night too!>>>

IT Delivered!!! highly recommended and more after seeing the almost nil GL content!!

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gen 18, 2023
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The actresses have the best GL chemistry out there

The BEST casting! The main characters, Mon and Khun Sam portrayed by 2 young ladies from Idol Factory, has the best chemistry in the GL industry right now. They started as supporting characters but now seeing their skills in this series really got them far. The GAP series is the first Full GL series in Thailand and i could tell that they set the Bar so High. I AM VERY PLEASED WITH THE EPISODES AND THE CHARACTERS. So far i've been so excited for the next episode. And im really hoping for a Season 2
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