Lost You Forever S2 crashed out with a few laps left to go
After waiting and anticipating for an entire year, reading the novel, reading the leaked script to sustain our fervour for the story and characters, to say Season2 was a huge disappointment is an understatement.While I can understand budget limitations for scene downgrades, removing of characters or even remove entire arcs of the novel, I was at least expecting some integrity in the scenes that have been chosen to remain.
Instead we received a horrendous merging of plot points, as if the team wanted to check all their boxes somehow, and succeeding in ruining every single moment instead. We also had inexplicable plot changes that made no sense at all, when they tried to link it back to novel events in their weak attempt to guide the mess back to the novel's path.
In short, almost nothing went right in Season2. Characters failed to display their potential, cop outs galore.
I finished it for closure and will go back to reread the novel to remove this horrid taste the drama left.
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Cang Xuan is the one to watch this season.
Cang Xuan's character devolvement into a jealous man is what has me on tenterhooks. His feelings for Xiao Yao are finally going to explode, the previews of the future episodes look heartbreaking for all involved. Zhang Wang Yi is such a terrific actor, no other actor could have done a better job. What I have come to like about him is that once he figured out Xiao Yao's identity he did not ever treat her poorly. He looked out for her and it was reciprocated by Xiao Yao. It is just a twist of fate that his obsession took a romantic turn otherwise the bond they shared is truly amazing. Of course there will be a redemption arc for him, but this will result it Xiao Yao loosing more years with Jing.I'm pretty sure that Xiao Yao & Ye Shiqi end up together, I'm all for it. I get why people get so mad at him, all he needed was just a little spine and he would have been a perfect character. I am not looking forward to the death of two pretty decent characters and it is hard to believe that they will be gone just like that.
Chenrong Xin Yue lost the chance to get into Xuan's good graces. Had she married him before, he would have treated her better. Now, she is here just for the prestige, her love was pretty shallow. But it is not like Xuan loves her or has the capability to do so. So, maybe they are well matched. It would suck if she doesn't pay for things that she does. I like her brother, he seems like a decent person and has been loyal to Xuan all throughout.
They went out of the way to make Tushan Jing appear weak. I'm really disappointed with the creators with regards to how they handled the final showdown between the Tushan brother. Before this, I never considered him weak, but the fight actually made it seem as if he couldn't fight at all. (I wonder if he was in a formation of some kind - I might need to rewatch the episode) But all the talk of fair fight from Tushan Hou suggests that there wasn't a formation. The fight scene should have been more charged. All the other scenes from these two episodes were more powerful compared to this one. His death seemed like an afterthought. We also finally see Fenglong do something against his conscience, taking credit for Jing's contribution. But with is last breath, he did manage to reveal the truth. I didn't want him to pay for his sister's mistakes. Despite her past, Chengrong Xin Yue had no redeeming qualities, only a brother who loved her would go to such lengths to save her life.
After completing the series, I have a new outlook on Xiang Lu. I did not like him in the first season at all, but I am not one to deny all he did for Xiao Yao. While he may not have been a good partner like TJ, he is the reason both Xiao Yao & TJ survived so far. He knew he wasn't right for her, so he did everything he could to make sure the right one ended up with her. He wasn't selfish with his love for Xiao Yao, he also made sure that she would have no regrets by leaving none of him behind. It is to be admired, the ability to love and let go. His death was gruesome and sad, I wish the rebel faction would have made better choices. But he died a hero who was loyal to his people till the end.
I agree with a lot of people, I am a bit disappointed that they treated the Xuan's killing TJ and the poisoning as an illusion, because it was in character for him to do it. I think that scene was sacrificed when the episodes were cut, so they had put in the Xin Yue's attempt on Xiao Yao's life and this scene together. It just felt that those emotionally charged scenes were all for naught. Cang Xuan's entire life was for the throne so it isn't surprising when he chose the throne over Xiao Yao. Had Xiao Yao even had any feelings for him, she would have been let down all her life.
Tushan Jing might have seemed like the safest choice for all and to some it may also feel like she settled, but Xiao Yao's love for him was undeniable. I'm pretty sure that even had she known all Xiang Lu did for her, she would have still chosen Jing. She would have felt indebted to Xiang Lu and conflicted because she did have some feelings but what she felt for TJ was far superior in her heart. Tushan Jing might not be the perfect ML that everyone wants or revers, but Like Xiao Yao I think he was gold. He was kind and ready to give up all and everything for Xiao Yao, how good for her that she fell in love with a guy like that. She needed that the most in her life.
I am bit confused about the ending though, if I got it right, XY died in their journey to compile the books. But there was no mention of TJ. I mean if XY died there's no way TJ would go on living not unless they had children. (I might have to rewatch this one again) Their visit to the Qinshui town also suggested that XY might be dead, here's to hoping that that's not the case and we get an extra episode for an epilogue.
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deep sigh
season 1 was the best, lost you forever s1 was even my top 1 wuxia series, Some may not approve of my opinion on season 2, don’t come for me. This is just my personalopinion, frustrations, and sentiments.
I’ve put a hold on this for long since I’ve read the novel, wishing they wouldn’t follow its ending… but I decided to binge watch from episode 1-20 lol
Xiao Yao, was a bit tolerable in s1 but to be honest, I sometimes get so frustrated with her, but no one will beat my frustrations towards Tushan Jing.
Anyway Cang Xuan (zhang wan yi) in season 2 was so remarkable, how he portrayed his character, and Xiang Lu (Tan Jian Ci) these 2 are the main reason I anticipated season 2. Tan Jian Ci looks great in this kind of genre, I enjoyed love me, love my voice because I am a huge Zhou ye fan, but I don’t know I wasn’t fully immersed with him as the lead there.
anyway back to this review, I’m in a point wherein I’m just annoyed with the other two main leads XY & TJ so if they will
follow the novels ending maybe they deserve each other grrrr.
Incest during the earlier period was a thing, probably if CX and XY didn’t separate at a young age their probable love line would’ve been plausible, but hence overtime people change. I understood where he was coming from being in such a traumatic childhood losing people he truly cares about, only having XY but later on it became an obsession, I’m quite sad that they couldn’t fulfill the promises they had for each other.
As for XL, he’s carrying such a great burden, and base on his decisions so far it was for the greater good (more lives at stake) but my heart is hurting for him, yes he may be too harsh but remember he was never used to feeling what love and affection is like, and no one really taught him that, until he met XY…
As for CF, he was such an easy going dude but I think I’m not as invested because there were very little to no interactions between him and XY comparing it to the screen time XY had with the other 3 ML. But he was a good option to be honest, willing to be loyal and faithful to XY, willing to let her do whatever she wants… but yes there’s no chemistry… and later on he realized his feelings for her weren’t so deep, so I’m happy for him not getting messed up with XY’s slefishness and indecisiveness.
As for TJ, I’m sorry I really started disliking him S1 midway and more on this S2, I just find him so pathetic, at times manipulative, and calculative. Like yes he’s loyal like a dog but that’s about it. He is utterly pathetic, and a lousy clan leader, he’s selfish if you look at the bigger picture. Yes they could careless about others only wanting and focusing on their feelings but man that’s unrealistic.
XY ughh don’t get me started, I wanted or envisioned her to be a more badass FL tbh, why can’t she be more grateful being able to focus on her medicine, her archery, spending time with her brother, sister, and grandfather, she’s becoming more and more annoying. She doesn’t realize the life she’s living now is all thanks to other people who makes/made sacrifices for her to live a more unrestrained life, but here she is yapping about her past, and making it about her. But CX and XL had more traumatic past, and are continuously suffering in the present for the greater good (for a lot of people)
UPDATE: wow XY how can she be so self centered, yes she faced countless of hardships and was traumatized and still uses that card to make her seem so pitful, but CX’s experiences and hardships from his younger years up to the present day were and are more traumatizing, and he’s been sacrificing so much like XL, but here she is making it about her, it’s between her feelings and the greater good. She’s too selfish, doesn’t she realize she’s been living so freely nowadays because of everyone else’s effort? but here she is still holding onto the past as if she’s the only one w/ a scarred past?! CX and XL are the ones who are pitful, the burdens they have as an individual.
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Just Don't like the anti-hero theme
The saddest ending is that the heroine prefers the anti-hero because he would do anything for her ... anything that even her mom wouldn't do for her! Basically, a slave.Throughout the story I got the sense that she likes TJ because he represents safety and the "deepest" love that transcends even parental love. She said it herself that her mom wouldn't do something for her but TJ will ...
Without this love, she feels insecure. Well I don't know if TJ represents love or anxiety medication? But whatever.
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Not a tragedy but with a gut wrenching ending
The first series ended with Cang Xuan becoming emperor and a political marriage. So the drama continued with XiaoYao nearly marrying Fenglong but the wedding was interrupted by the impetuous FangFeng Bei.You would not call the drama a tragedy since the lead couple did not die. But the ending was gut wrenching.
This sequel had a draggy start. The first few episodes were quite boring but got quite interesting later. What sustained me during the early episodes was the desire to find out who eventually Xiao Yao would end up with in view of her four suitors.
This sequel did a melodramatic portrayal of Xiao Yao's suitors. The most painful to watch was Xiang Liu and Cang Xuan. Xiang Liu accepted Xiao Yao's rejection as they were from opposing camps, although deeply in love. He continued to make sacrifices for her in secret. It was evident that Xiao Yao somewhat reciprocated as the love bug could infect them both. And indeed if he was really FangFeng Bei, things might turned out differently. What was even more painful was towards the end, he removed the poisonous love bugs at the expense of two of his lives without letting her know.
Cang Xuan watched in pain as Xiao Yao pined over Jing and regretted he pushed Xiao Yao to Fenglong and Jing to gain their support. As he rightly pointed out about his numerous marriages - it was like he had brought all the flowers into his garden but the one he loved most was not there. And there were continual flashbacks of their childhood years and how Xiao Yao had saved him, almost sacrificing herself in various occasions. He wanted her as empress but could not tell her. There was a twist towards the end of the drama, which helped to push the development of the Cang Xuan character forward and helped him managed his obsession.
This drama had some obvious clanky parts. Cang Xuan waged a war and nearly lost, only to have an aging benevolent king abdicated to avoid unnecessary further deaths and in favour of the capable and younger king. Even though the old king had always had the younger man in mind as successor, it was unnatural that he did not become angry at the outrageous betrayal.
The ending episode was gut wrenching as the most selfless of Xiao Yao's suitors was killed although he was revered by his enemy for his loyalty and capabilities. And at his death, Xiao Yao's tear drop he kept fell onto his eyes to become his. This actor was amazing. A good looking actor, doing an outstanding job, taking on a tragic ending in an excellent drama - almost always take their careers to new heights.
Tan Jian Ci was outstanding with the multi-faceted portrayal of the reckless, fun-loving Fangfeng Bei and the serious and ruthless Xiang Liu. He rightfully deserved being list separately as the special lead actor in the lead-in.
Interestingly, when Jing was suspected of being killed, I knew he would be revived but hoped he won't. Although he was deeply in love with Xiao Yao, he was just silently pining away. He did little to stop his marriage to Yi Ying and just passively accepted his 'mistake' and submitting to his foolish grandmother. Even at Xiao Yao's and Fenglong's wedding, he had to use someone else to spoil it rather than did it himself. To Xiao Yao, he was a safe choice - always there for her. Also, he had no ambition besides to be continually by her side. But I would rather have Xiao Yao select either Cang Xuan or Xiang Liu. Unfortunately these men have other priorities that got in the way.
In this sequel, you would go through an emotional roller-coaster of laughter and mostly tears. At the end, you see the couples that remain were not the matches you would have wished for.
However overall, I think this drama was excellent and highly recommended it. Cinematography, music, costumes and most importantly the acting. I gave it a high rating taking away only 1 point for the clanky and draggy parts and for choosing the wrong bridegroom, but in recognition of the spectacular ending.
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except for XL, everything else meh
well, my s1 comment still stands. with better director and screenwriter, this show can go down to be one of the memorable ones in recent years. shucks.things I don’t like were many compared to those I like.
even for XL, why they think it’s good idea to turn him into this mopey mess? TJC saved this OOC with his acting thank goodness.
illusion scene? what? they trying to be twilight 2.0? epic fail.
I’m even surprised Jing felt nonexistent in most part of the show given that he’s 2ML. but even so, his scenes were dull.
we might have a better storytelling if eps weren’t cut to 23. but who knows.
just how many times XY need to wait and burst out like a mad woman? in s1, the mum scene was really good and effective. in s2, we have her crying scene with mum AGAIN, then yelling with CX, burst out during Jing….then we have the “underwhelming” cry for XL. Too much, no matter how you tell me oh that was good. it’s repetitive, and no nuance.
my problem with this show in overall, the growth of female lead was nonexistent. while in book, the ending was the start of her real growth, in here, she’s just love brained. that very person who said she’s lonely and don’t mind temporary companionship/lifelong to someone who needs a man or else she can’t survive. must it be a man? lol. I rather she don’t end up with anyone.
I won’t say anything about the CP here because S2 successfully destroyed all the ships.
lastly, all the actors here suffered from bad editing and inefficient production team. so, don’t blame the actors. the director, screenwriter and the production team are solely responsible. doesn’t mean Tonghua is a good novel writer means she’s good screenwriter.
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Was expecting more from a supposed second season.
I really love the first season despite wanting to see Xiang Liu and Xiao Yao end up together and of course the open ending.I dislike the character of Tushan Jing so much. His only good quality is that he doesn't love anybody else but Xiao Yao.
He is, for a man that was supposed to have been born in a rich family, an idiot.
He says to Xiao Yao that he loves her but at the same time doesn't fight for their love. This is really important especially because all the people that Xiao Yao loved abandoned her.
Why to me the second season sucks is that the ending (despite not having read the book) is really predictable. There not being a body of Tushan Jing already shows that he did not die. I had hoped that Xiang Liu would not remove the Love Bug and that there would be a struggle of Cang Xuan trying to save Xiao Yao while trying to fight Xang Liu. Unfortunately that didn't happen.
The 23 episodes do not have enough storyline to make it good. Had it been allowed to air it all at once that would have been nice. I would not have liked more but I wouldn't have felt that I wasted months waiting on it for it to disappoint.
Things I do love are the costumes and definitely season 1. I would probably only watch it one more time all at once but then not again. Or only when I feel like seeing Tan Jianci in a beautiful costume with long hair. (Especially while waiting for Winner Is King to finally air, aka until my hair turns white)
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Still worth the watch
Season 2 wasn’t as good as season 1 but still worth the watch as the overall story is still really good.The Good
The acting kept me sustained throughout this drama and everyone really showed their range. A lot of emotions were very well portrayed by both the main and supporting characters. If not for this, I may have not made it through season 2. I will still give the story an A+ rating if I look at it from the overall show. This is a very uniquely written story about love and loss among immortals and demons that deviated away from your typical xuanhuan stories and I can really appreciate the effort they made to let it stand on its own. The OST is still pretty good.
The Bad
This season was less interesting than the first season and seemed to have slightly lower production quality. The editing was a little more choppy and you can tell that bits of detail were removed. I found a lot of this season to be a drag. Many of the scenes had too long of a runtime, far too much of a slow burn and it became a little more of a chore to get through. I rated the first season a 10 and was very excited to watch it everyday but the airing schedule for this season didn’t make it any better and I found myself deviating to other shows. There was also some predictability in how it would end and that may be due to the endless spoilers that novel readers gave if you read comments on MDL. Either way, the climax fell a little flat for me towards the end.
I would rate this overall show an 8.5 given that season 2 wasn’t as good to me as the first season but would still recommend a watch. Still one of the better shows in 2024.
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In love with the chemistry and dynamic
I just finished watching. I am in love with the chemistry, interaction, and dynamic between Yang Zi and Tan Jian Ci. I finished the series for their story and chemistry. Yang Zi's and Tan Jian Ci's acting made my heart ache and cry. Also, beautiful costumes. I highly recommend it if you like angst- enemies to lovers - and lovers to enemies. Yang Zi's and Tan Jian Ci's dynamic reminded me of Sauron/Halbrand and Galadriel from Rings of Power. Tan Jian Ci''s character gives Sauron/Halbrand vibes too much. I love it.Questa recensione ti è stata utile?
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It's first time i hate a female role so much.I don't understand why such a writer should create such a weak and depraved character. The whole time she just wanted to marry one and keep her relationship with the others, why?
Because she was afraid of loneliness. The main character was obsessed with marriage and was full of trauma and complexes, and she was not suitable for being the main character.
The story really got crazy in season two and it made me feel bad.
The character of Jing had a very nonsensical personality and I don't understand why Xiao Yao should fall in love with this character, whereas the presence of Xiang Liu and Sang Xuan was more prominent than Jing and even the sequences about Jing could have been deleted.
I watched the whole series because of Xiang Liu and Sang Xuan, because they were the only people who had strong personalities and could show themselves, but Xiao Yao I don't think she could even be the main female character in the story because there were always strong contradictions and behaviors.
The story proceeded completely irrationally, and Xiao Yao's choices were completely irrational.
I have a piece of advice for the author, don't write novels anymore
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Multifaceted title depending on your POV
Where do i even start? I was on Team XL the whole damn way (even when i eventually found out what happened to him in the source material). Perhaps TSJ was better in the source material and was not adapted into the drama in a better way (excerpted from other people opinion) but overall his character seemed to annoy me more. CX was a complex character and honestly the dream sequence would have had more impact if it was truly the ending as i think it really fit the drama title which is him losing XY forever. I enjoyed Nian's somewhat of a growth and redemption arc and her giving XY, XL's final remnant and also understood why she was intent on telling the white lie the whole way. Grandad was the goat and i loved his leisure time on the mountains. Overall i would have loved to see more political tropes play out towards the end (heck they should have made 36 eps instead so some parts can take their time to unfold). On the fence on recommending this series for others but nevertheless it was top notch acting from all the actors involved, kudos to themQuesta recensione ti è stata utile?
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A journey led by choices and fate
After a year of waiting in anticipation, we finally get to see the result of the choices (or perhaps lack thereof) made by our beloved characters. Will they achieve their ultimate wish/goal, or will fate lead them to a different path? Or perhaps, will fate lead them to a path where they will always be destined to make the same choices?From S1 to S2, we follow XY and CX’s journey together along with TSJ, XL, FL, AN, etc who accompany them along the way. We come to understand how they are shaped by their experiences, their traumas/struggles, their expectations and goals.
My personal thoughts:
The lows:
As someone who has read the novel, I will say that S2 (technically part 2) had several disappointing changes that ultimately left me wondering how they could possibly undermine the strong plot and character development from S1 (which was pretty faithful to the original). While it is understandable for adaptations to have some tweaks due to a variety of factors, the inconsistencies and choppy editing left things feeling lacklustre. Whether you’ve read the novel or not and no matter who your favourite character (or ship) was, the changes downplayed the complexities of each character and their relationships, and the meaning behind the entire theme of lovesickness/losing someone forever. I think it is fair to say that all the characters were impacted and got the short end of the stick. It is unfortunate that LYF was one of the many victims of such changes (due to censorship or other reasons). It would have faired better by being a bit more faithful to be main events and the essence of characters in the original. I think a good 30 eps would have given viewers more context to follow along with a conclusive storyline.
The highs:
The actors really carried the show, and I thank them because they really did their best with the script they were given, which helped me pull through in S2. They have a good grasp of their characters and executed the array of emotions beautifully. ZWY and YZ (also TJC) absolutely SHINED this season - their acting range and calibre are some of the best I have seen in a while. I am so happy they were casted and can only hope they collaborate again in the near future. That level of chemistry should definitely be utilized again. In fact, all the cast members did an amazing job! They pulled my heartstrings and are the heart of the series.
Although there were some questionable and illogical changes, they did include some scenes that were not part of the novel, which added onto the storyline and the characters’ POV.
Also, shoutout to the supporting cast: Grandpa, Haoling Emperor, Lao Sang, Ru Shou, Mao Qiu (Chubby) who made the drama that much more vibrant.
Overall, the drama as a whole was still very memorable with many meaningful life lessons touching on life, love, and loss. The detailed discussions and analyses you see in MDL reflect just that - the deep impression the characters have left on the viewers. I still recommend this series and highly recommend the novel if you haven’t already checked it out.
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