Love by Chance 2 (2020)

HOW DID THE PROGRAM/CHANNEL EXECUTIVES PASS THIS?!

I honestly have no clue how this got a nod to go on floor and be released. This makes absolutely no sense. There are soooooo many problems in this show. Unlike many viewers....the retelling of the story from season 1 was the least of my concern.......however this season had other alarmingly glaring issues. Spoilers ahead !!

1) Absolutely Unacceptable trope: This show was released in 2020. And yet so many tropes used in this series are not only outdated but so problematic. Gone are the days when BL shows could present story lines with icky unacceptable developments and sell it as if it’s nothing. I truly expect better not only from the makers but this industry in general. Techno and Kengkla story made me so uncomfortable in the first season. But what frustrated me even more was the way this season tried to shoehorn them in the box of a cute couple who are trying to bypass a minuscule issue. Oh and that issue is RAPE. What the hell! They not only toned down the seriousness of this issue but also failed to depict how uncomfortable or hurt Techno was (because he clearly was). But not to worry......relentlessly being pursued by Kengkla made him forget everything (face palm).

2) No Room for Consent: Why did consent mean squat in this show? Why!? I fail to understand this!! Tin-Can were a very awkward couple...and this is the nicest thing I can say about them. Random kisses by Tin to Can even when they were not a couple or had any romantic development WHATSOEVER was so frustrating to watch. And no this isn't cute by any means. These characters had no understanding of boundaries or personal space.

3) Gaslighting Galore: The way the makers handled Tin's family story reminded me of all the red flags psychologists warn about. There is no simple way to put it....the brother was a douche-bag of the first order. Yes he also suffered as a child but what he did to Tin by no means is or should be acceptable. When the father was confronted about all the wrongdoings done to Tin, he started giving explanation about how hard it was for Tul, I know I’m a failed father, but you had better than all of us…. so try and understand our perspective because you're a nice boy at the end of the day. Brilliant class on gaslighting. And it worked.....Tin forgave his horrible brother and moved on as if nothing ever happened. Somehow for a change I was on Can's side (usually his over enthusiasm got on my nerves) ....his hesitance to forgive Tul was justified. And what was the whole thing about Tul and the father being mean to Tin because they wanted him to have freedom and no responsibility unlike them. That was some BULL S*&$. The boy only wanted some love, respect and understanding. These guys were mentally 2 years old. Even kids handle relationships better than them. Jeez.

4) Yawn Couple: Pete and Ae were good in season 1. They were the star couple. But what was the need to bring them back in this season. Ae’s sole job in this season was to mope around and be sad. What a waste. The makers did not do any justice in telling their story. Their story was used as filler in every episode. The makers presented half baked reasons for their break up which I was honestly not convinced about and presented unnecessary flashbacks. Focus on Ae diverted the attention from Tin and Can which they definitely needed. Showing the progress in their relationship was important which was eventually done very shabbily.

5) Couples, Couples & More Couples: This is one of my major issues with many mainstream Thai BL shows. What is the need to have 4 couples in a series with hardly 12 episodes with a running time of 35-40 minutes? It makes no sense. Rather than focusing on 1 or max 2 couples and polishing their story line, they divided their attention on 4 couples with neither of them leaving any impression on the audience. This is a very unique technique in expanding the BL universe as the couple that clicks with the audience ends up becoming the main couple in the next season or they branch off as a separate show. The creative dedication in writing meaningful genuine scripts with thoughtful dialogues and inspiring romances is absolutely absent. The audiences do not need multiple couples at a time, all they want is one good couple with a memorable story.

This show is a disaster from top to bottom. The only good thing about it is the production value because anyway Thai shows end up getting hefty sponsors. The direction was amateur, the script/storyline was a mixture of outdated and uninspiring tropes/clichés, and the acting was simply bad. The saving grace was Lemon Can’s sister (she was very adorable) and Tin’s dad who was refreshingly progressive for accepting both his sons being in gay relationships.

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Not what I expected but still enjoyable

First off I know why people dislike this. I get it. It changed a lot from the books and what we were expecting to get after season 1, and we all know that no show needs a season 2 lol. In saying that, I do want to say what I liked about this season. I like that they took notes from season 1 and made some good changes. For example, the Tum and Tar relationship. BL is finally starting to get out of this step bros thing, and I love the idea of introducing a new love interest for Tum. Like I think we need more BLs that have characters actually dating instead of this idea that you have to end up with the first person you fall in love with or whatever trope we see all the time. Also, I loved that we got to see how Ae dealt with his feelings after Pete left. Did he need that much screen time? No lol but some of it was valid especially how his friends like Pond helped him out. Now, I will say I was originally a fan of Techno and Kengla when I was younger and watched season 1 (I was a newbie and very dumb) so I could have done without them continuing this storyline, but again I am glad that they at least did not romanticize what Kengla did. Did he deserve Techno? Absolutely not! I am glad they at least acknowledged what he did was wrong. Lastly, I don't think we needed to relive all the TinCan scenes, but they were my first ship and I'm a sucker for them lol

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alla gente non va mai bene nulla

una volta ho letto una recensione che cominciava come: l’utente di my drama list è come quello di Reddit, non gli va mai bene nulla. e lì per li non capivo (anche perché non uso Reddit), però uso MDL e finalemte ho capito. la storia non è la più grande piece teatrale della storia dei BL, però voglio dire, non fa così schifo come ho visto molti commentare. ripeto, Ae è un po’ una lagna (che io lo capisco che è triste e tutto, però praticamente tutta la sua storia gira attorno a questo e io lo capisco che Perth non voleva che venisse sostituito Saint, però forse ne avrebbe giovato), ad una certa comincia a piacerti anche Tul, ha e non comprendi come Tum e Tar che nel primo sembravano tutto forché fratelli di sangue si trasformano in tali. ecco, ora non è male, certo c’è di meglio, ma è molto lontano dalla cosa peggiore che ho visto. Mean e Plan hanno una discreta chimica e le scene di loro a letto post sex sono molto dolci (e Tin ha almeno un terzo dei complessi in meno nella prima parte quindi te lo rendono leggermente più piacevole) solo che non comprendo come sia possibile che due persona che hanno così tanta chimica in tutte le scene non ne abbiano quando si baciano. a me comunque non interessa, non sono quella che cerca il bacio in ogni episodio e non me ne può fregar di meno se la serie è piena di scene NC meno. sono contenta che abbiano parlato dei problemi delle scene di Kengla e Techno e come al solito, appena vedo una scena di Mark mi sono ritrovata n volte a dire “mamma come mi piace come attore” (però questi sono problemi miei). detta la cosa di Tum e Tar e detta quella di Tul (che come per magia si riscopre anche lui appartenere al mondo dei BL, anche se già lo sapevo perché alcune cose delle storia già le sapevo) e sottolineato che amo Perth, ma il suo personaggio era un po’ una lagna, devo dire, c’è di peggio e che se si vuole vedere la continuazione delle coppie del primo (tranne Tin e Can che secondo me hanno giovato del riscoperto protagonismo) merita anche perché Tin e Can hanno una caratteristica che mi piace come coppia: si parlano (o almeno Can lo fa) e I misunderstanding durano molto poco. quindi Kudos per questo. poi già la prima stagione non era la cosa migliore del mondo (quindi uno non si aspetta che lo sia anche la seconda) però c’è as always molto peggio.

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Be warned, this is how I feel, I know not everyone will feel the same. To each their own. +foul language

But fuck this whole season. I for one should have actually read who the couple would be. That was my mistake. I can not stand Mean. Don't like him, don't like his character. Usually I try to separate the actor from the character but *HELL NO*. Not this time. Through this whole show I just kept seeing what he did to Earth and all the disgusting remakes he had made and it made me sick.

I didn't understand this season at all - the time line was extremely fucked up and things have happened that were never clarified like oh suddenly Pete is gone? Why? "To help Ae." --- what in the hell of WHY?! I stuck around trying to find out the reason and of course I stuck around to support Earth (even if his parts were small. I would watch anything for this cinnamon roll).

I don't understand why they suddenly tossed in new relationships and new people... What was the reason?! It's the last season (that we know of), so make that make sense to us!!

And can we talk about all the S/A that happened in this season? And the fact that people were just okay with it happening? What the actual fuckery? Like when what's-his-face took advantage of Techno while he was drunk and then said HE came on to him and all that shit. Continued to chance after Techno, suddenly spill the beans later and oops now they're a couple. Wtf?

And Tul's wife and kid?? This made me want to scream at the screen. So you cheated on your boyfriend...? I just... what the hell.

This show y'all.... it is a gotdamn MESS! and the ending doesn't make it any better. Ae been pining this WHOLE damn time like to the point it is unhealthy af, then at the end we get a "I'm back". Bro, you said what now? That's it? That's the end scene? You shitting me right now?

There was lkjglkfeughlieruhbeirugv What was there to like? Nothing. Okay I take that back.. Earth. Earth was to like, to love, to adore. I'm biased and I' fine with that. Lol

All in all though... It shouldn't have even been called "season 2" it could have been a special........ Not that that would have made it made any more sense. I really wish I knew what went through their minds that could justify it being this way. and FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS RAINBOW IF YOU MAKE ANOTHER SEASON PLEASE KEEP THE SAME ACTORS!!!! I'm so so so sooooooooo sick of the constant actor changes. X_X It makes me feel like I'm watching a whole ass different series. I said what I said.

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What a waste of a second season!

Given how popular season 1 was and how much expectation there was for season 2, I'm sure this will be yet another review in the probably hundredths of reviews but here goes.

What a way to waste a second season... and I explain it in several points:
1) What was the point of re-telling the Tin-Can story? One thing that made season 1 so popular was the ending this couple got and how season 2 was going to fix it. Well, it didn't happen until episode 7. Instead, the absence of Pete made the director and writer reset Tin and Can from zero. Their personalities didn't change much from season 1 to season 2 so there was no valid point to waste 6 episodes telling me things I already saw in S1.

2) What was the point of having Ae crying around like a zombie for 3 episodes and then just post daily reports in his social media accounts for Pete to see? There was virtually no interaction with Tin and some advice to Can and the rest it was him starting into the horizon and doing nothing relevant for the plot. If you kept Perth around for S2, then give him something more interesting to do or don't have him at all.

3) What was the point of Ae's friends? Bow and Pond barely appeared in S2 and then we get glimpses of Mai (played by Krit) who I thought was an interesting character but after dragging Ae to the soccer field and yelling at him his appearances started to decrease. Sammy (who plays Bow) has been very well used in other series as a secondary character who is best friend of the lead actor (see "Until We Meet Again" for an example) and I was surprised to see Yacht (who plays Pond) having a role as Fiat's friend and trying to rape Un's character in "My Gear and Your Gown", so I know they are both able to do much more than just product placement or pat Ae's back when he cries.

4) What is going on with Plan's gestures when he is in a kissing scene? The chemistry between him and Mean has always been great and they seem more or less comfortable during all the scenes in their underwear or hugging shirtless, but when it comes to kissing, Plan is simply not comfortable at all and it shows... he never kissed Mean like he wanted it and his face was always one of worry and him wanting to hear the word "cut!" to end the scene. If he is that uncomfortable or unwilling to commit to those scenes (the way Mew and Gulf do in "Tharn-Type" or even Ali and Alec in the very cute "Boys Lockdown", for example) then change the scenes. While we all wanted them to kiss, it was a bit awkward to see those very bad kisses.

5) What was the point of the Tul-Hin saga? I think the chemistry between Meen and Est was very good (especially in the last 2 episodes when they actually had scenes together) so, there was potential to develop the story way more than what we got. We wasted time with Tul acting like a jerk towards Tin but never actually doing anything too bad to him like a true drama villain might do. Then Tul will soften up around Phupha and turn to mush when he thought about or someone mentioned Hin. I get Tul and Hin have a dominant-submissive type relationship that turns into some BDSM in the book, so that would not have been very appropriate for the TV series, but for many episodes Tul was just hating Tin, secretly hoping for Hin to come back and being a good father to Phupha. I wished they developed more of their characters instead.

6) What was the point of the Kengkla-Techno story? We know Kengkla took advantage of Techno in S1 and now tries to be forgiven by doing nice things. But the storyline gets boring and annoying quickly with Kengkla stalking Techno, giving him gifts or trying to talk to him and Techno falling into a mental battle of "oh he is so cute and I like him" vs. "he took advantage of me and he lied to me" every single time. This couple could have been avoided in my opinion to focus on the potential Tum-Keen relationship that seemed to be developing but only saw glimpses of it by the final episode.

Overall the long awaited second season ended up being quite a disappointment. I saw myself just skipping through many scenes that were so predictable and/or boring. I even preferred to watch other BL series that were far less promoted (see for example "Gaya sa Pelikula", translated as "Like in the Movies" in English or "I Told Sunset About You") but that were complete surprises by how well acted, well scripted and well planned those series were compared to the mess that "LBC 2: A Chance to Love" ended up being. I love the actors and the writer but I think this was a failure.

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A Lesser Sequel

This is a sequel to Love by Chance, but it doesn't have the main Bl couple from that season. I read up to see what happened to Saint, and it looks like some drama between Perth and Saint's managers led to a weird fallout. Not having Pete's character was a problem. This made Ae into a sad sack for almost the entire season. Perth does a good job with a nothing role. We also never get a clear reason why Pete and Ae break up, though they give you some information you can infer the reason, but you really have to google what happened in the book to actually get a clear picture.

All the relationships seem to assume the first season happened, except Tin and Can get a complete reboot for some reason. They reenact various scenes from the first Love by Chance season for what feels like the word-for-word but under different narrative reasons or locations. It isn't until the start of episode 7 that something new happens between Tin and Can.

I actually really like Can. He is a naive simpleton with a good heart. When he and Tin finally do get together, it is kinda adorable.

The subplot of Kla and No is still bothersome. Kla takes advantage of No when he is drunk one night, and the first season ends with them heading into a relationship because Kla gaslighted No. However, in this season, No realizes what actually happened but becomes fixated on Kla as a love interest. However, he is angry at what happened but also doesn't want to fall for his brother's best friend who is still in high school. There are so many problems with this relationship. Kla's love letters and defense of himself are deeply deeply problematic and reflect an immaturity when it comes to understanding love or romance. This subplot should have been removed or significantly altered.

The plot around Tin's brother, I think, works fine. However, the resolution between Tin and his older brother is too simple and easy.

A lot about this sequel series just doesn't work well for me. The Tin/Can relationship is enjoyable, but I don't like the fact half of the season is just retreading the same ground from the first season.

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What an EPIC disappointment!!!!

I have to say! Why ...oh why ..I have been waiting for MeanPlan aka TinCan story since the LBC. But ACL was like tap water compared to champagne LBC was!

This is gonna be a long review to vent my frustrations!!!

Let me start by the pain points!
#was not a fan of retelling the storying of LBC in this, so much screentime wasted! And the timelines were mixed too, making you confused & irritated.
#WTH!!! If Pete was not there, you could have used the technic you guys did with Tharn in last scence & Type in this. Jus pretended he was there without showing him.
But to show, Ae and Pete brokeup without clearly telling the reason why. I could only assume it was due to Pete's dad threatening to expel Ae. This contradicts LBC, where Pete's mom was so happy for AePete and dad was never in picture.
#hated to see a sad wasted Ae in first 3 episode...it was lik a laugh in front of the beautiful Ae from LBC.
#dont get me started on Techno&Kla's story, if u can call it that. They had little to no scene..I would have loved to see their love develop despite their start 《yup i know Kla practically raped No》.
#the unwanted side characters...I get that they wanted to promote their Ad partners but did u have to do it oh so painfully obvious ???
#Tul's yearning and love was shown well, even if i cant accept what he did, the ending for the brothers were put well.
#TumTar, dunno what to say... I have mixed feelings with how Tum ends up with his friend.

Lets come to ACTING!!!

--Only winning point was Mean's acting !! I gave rewatch as 2.5 just for him!!! ELSE WOULD HAVE GIVEN -1
--Plan was good but when it came to intimate scences, even if Mean carried his part, Plan ruined it. Their chemistry was so better from LBC, but if only Plan had corporated a bit with Mean. This could have been an Unforgettable couple! Their Kissing was a huge let down all contributed due to Plan.
--loved Tul's aka Meen's acting, he looks so cute..cant believe he is jus 21...looked so matured in his role...will be waiting to see more of his plays.
---great disappointment: Techno's acting...what was that? Did he get worst than LBC?

OVERALL:: did not have the essence or magic of LBC...a lame try!!!!

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What the heck were you thinking Mame?!
what did you do to this second season of Love by Chance?
After a wonderful first season of LBC, they give us this dissapointed 2nd season.
I dont know why they were trying to re-shaped the TinCan storyline, why didnt you just pick up from the last episode from the first season?
Then, after the re-shaped the storyline, they give us zero memorable scenes and down-grading version of the first season.
Im just...speachless

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Un despropósito

ACTUALIZADO AL FINAL
Love by chance era un buen bl, una historia bonita, bien contada y con una buena química entre las dos parejas, la protagonista y la secundaria. No era una obra redonda como Sotus ni con actuaciones tan dramáticas como Tharntype o Until we meet again pero era muy agradable de ver. No así esta segunda parte de la historia. Hoy he visto el 11avo capítulo de A chance to love y tengo que decir que es bastante decepcionante. Solo las escenas tiernas de Tin y Can son pasables,pero la historia no tiene ningún sentido.
Creo que el rehacer la historia de Tin y Can no ha hecho ningún bien a la serie pero es que no es este todo el problema, tiene muchos, la historia de Ae no tienen ningún interés ni tampoco las tramas de las otras parejas secundarias que se quedan a lo largo de los 11 capítulos casi sin desarrollar. Nunca había visto algo tan desigual en un bl. Qué van hacer? resolver todas las historias en un último capítulo, ridículo!!
Pero lo que más sorprende es como han resuelto la historia familiar de Tin, un desastre! Un despropósito! Es una parodia más bien de drama familiar que se resuelve con una conversación a medias con el padre y con un Tin de golpe dispuesto a perdonar al malvado hermano. Mal, muy mal. No nos lo creemos. Una pena de actores haciendo lo que pueden para aguantar este bochorno. Después de ver este capítulo tan horrible, creo que puedo decir que en mi humilde opinión que supera con creces en poca calidad a Oxygen the series que para mi es otro despropósito.
No me explico como la misma productora de la fantástica y emotiva UWMA ha podido hacer estas series tan mediocres.
Me voy a hacer un maratón este fin de semana de MINI BL Coreanos a ver si me pasa el disgusto. JAJAJAJAJAJ

FINALIZADO: Confirmo el DESTROZO de la serie, aún con el dulce final! Sólo nos hubiera faltado un SAD ending para indignarnos completamente jajjaja pero nos han dejado ( al menos, solo en este aspecto) con un buen sabor de boca!! El resto fatal: lagunas e inconsistencias en el guión, las historias de las dos parejas secundarias acabadas de manera super apresurada y sin ningúna profundidad, diálogos muy poco trabajados y los actores nadando en todo este destrozo como pez fuera del agua, jajajaj. Si estáis pensando en verlo, NO PERDÁIS EL TIEMPO! Os recomiendo los bl coreanos mucho mejores o si preferís THAI , mucho mejor: 1000 thousand stars o ITSAY!!!! EstáN a años luz de este bodrio!!!!!

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Eh.....Could be better but......

Story
I was really excited when they announced that LBC was getting a season 2 and couldn't wait to see more of Ae/Pete and Tin/Can again, but then the whole thing with Saint happened and I wasn't as excited as before, but then I thought, "okay well at least I'll get to see more of Tin/Can". The first episode happened and it just went "WTF" from there. They completely rewrote Tin/Can's storyline but the other characters lives moved forward for about the first 6 episodes, so the audience were left confused wondering what the hell was happening. We had to deal with an emo Ae for a while with no explanation as to what happened with him and Pete, so only those who read the book had the most understanding as to what was going on this season. It started to pick up from episode 7 and got back on track, but it still didn't get any better. The story kind of still flipped flopped around. Apparently it stayed true to the book version of Tin and Can.

Acting/Cast
Most of the OG casts returned, BUT THEY WERE NOT UTILIZED AT ALL. Guys like Mark and Gun (especially Mark) were barely there even though we were supposed to get some sort of continuation with their story. Earth was the one who was REALLY under used since we got to see him a total of 3 times with 10 second screen time. Mean and Plan kind of felt like they just didn't want to be there and their chemistry wasn't as good as it was in season 1.(Their love scenes and kisses were cringe) Mean was great on his own though, but his scenes with Plan...oye. I blame the script. New comers Meen and Est (Tul and Hin) could've been used more because I finally got into their storyline but they were wasted here too. Perth was the only one that acted well and did a better job. Then the cast started disappearing and then popping up randomly to the point you kind of forget they were actually on the show. (Mai's character & Bow)

Music
It was great. You cannot go wrong with Boy Sompob.

Rewatch Value
None...once was enough.

Overall
Some might like it and others won't. If you're really invested in Tin/Can then watch this. I must admit that they had a lot of really cute moments especially Tin. I loved all of his moments with Can and Can brought some funny moments too. This was honestly a skippable season.

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I LOVE IT

This series is worth watching.....honestly speaking i cant say how happy I'm that the series Love by chance season2 is finally out, for those fans & viewers that are disappointed to what really happened, the plot of the series of episode 1&2 , episode 1 continue from season1 episode 14, Can had finally realise that he had fallen inlove with Tin and couldnt just accept it, the main reason can was crying after the football match wasnt only because they lost the match but because he had come to realise what like to lost what you love so much.......their is still 7more episode to catch up on.?

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Confused and Disappointed

I really wanted to wait until the series ended before I gave my review, but I really needed to vent my frustrations with season two.

First of all, the only reason I decided to even invest my time with the sequel was solely because of TinCan. They were one of the best side couples I’ve seen in a bl drama. Their story line and their screen chemistry had me hooked.

Unfortunately, I have to admit that I am struggling with season two. The writers definitely missed their mark on this one. This season is missing SO much, I don’t even know where to begin.

One thing is that I hate the decision the writers made to completely redo TinCan’s story. It totally negates their passion and everything about their love story from the first season, which was utterly perfect for me. I’m sure I’m not alone when I say that I was excited upon hearing the news about the sequel and that we would get to see more of TinCan’s story, but starting from scratch was a bad move on the writers part.

Another major problem for me is the chemistry.
I don’t know what’s going on with TinCan’s spark or lack there of, but I’m just not feeling it, like.... at all. I really want to fall in love with this season the same way I did with the first, but without AePete and the TinCan I remember, I’m left feeling confused and disappointed.

I’d rather have just one really good kiss scene, or no skinship at all, over the lack of passion and lackluster storyline we’re getting from this season. I will continue watching until the end out of respect for the actors that I’ve grown to love, and with the hopes that this season picks up.

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