Start-Up (2020)

my comfort drama

I know you might think I’m crazy, but I love this drama so much!!
just everything about it makes me so happy!
the cast is so good, Sansan tec crew all make me laugh

I love bae Suzy and nam joo-hyuk so much, I know everybody had second male lead syndrome for this but not me! I feel like dosan and dalmi are perfectly suited and they had so much chemistry

want Suzy and joo-hyuk to reunite soon!!!

I have rewatched 4 times and it never disappoints

only think I would say is there is far to much crap about start-ups and not enough romance

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Story:Refreshing; Acting/cast: Best; Ost:Favourite; Rewatch value:Obviously; Overall:Mind-blowing

Best drama I have watched this year. I use mind-blowing word only for thrillers, first time I am using it for rom-com. I can't believe it has so low rating. This should be rated 8.8-8.9 mdl.

Don't tell me it's because of sml syndrome. Which was executed amazingly in this drama. Me who is always team main leads and easily get annoyed with sml, and sml fans who get heartbroken unnecessary even knowing ml and fl are endgame. That's so annoying.
But here Han Ji pyeong is my most favourite character who deserves fans getting heartbroken over him.

Suzy's one of bestest drama. Her every project is my favourite (even her ex boyfriend Lee Minho). Anna, while you were sleeping, vagabond, uncontrollably fond, dream High, architecture 101. I have not watched her only one drama 'Gu family Book'.

Nam Joohyuk has become my favourite actor of the year with this drama. Me who is Kim seon ho's fan since hometown cha cha cha. But here Nam Joohyuk shined more than Kim Seonho in this drama. And I watched his 5 titles this year without realising.

Here every character story is so beautiful. One of rarest drama where I will remember every supporting characters.

Don't pass on this drama. The drama start is so heartbreaking that you will be hooked from 1st episode. If you like to get sml syndrome. I have never experienced such amazing sml syndrome ever. And if you are coder or interested in it. I was not that interested in it. But this drama has made me interested in machine learning. And if you don't want to watch unnecessary fillers in drama. Every second of this is drama count.

Last but not least. I can't believe I was never interested in this drama. I had watched reels, read people discussion in comments section. But I was never interested in this. I don't know why?

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Un drama que empecé a ver porque si y terminó siendo una gran sorpresa

Realmente empecé a ver este drama por la comodidad de que estuviera en Netflix, no tenía expectativas ni comentarios al respecto, sin embargo no hubo ni un fin de semana que me perdiera de los capítulos. Es un drama con un buenísimo elenco, todos los actores y actrices hicieron un muy buen trabajo, la historia fue innovadora, me encantó como se metieron en la tecnología y la IA además de los toques dramáticos y románticos. El final estuvo adecuado con el drama y solo podría decir que le faltó profundización en el caso de "venganza" sin embargo lo pienso y siento que los guionistas y directores del drama querían dar un enfoque totalmente diferente a los normales en este proyecto, así que los aplaudo y me voy muy feliz y contenta con este drama.

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一位新創者給予本劇的評論

我本身是一位新創事業的創業者，希望從自己的經驗，提供本劇的觀眾一些可參考性的評論。

== 故事 ==

一、新創事業是全新連續劇創作領域

很多人可能以為新創事業與一般創業是相同的，實際上他們卻是有著一些差異，對於從事新創事業的觀眾，會非常有感。

本劇的故事，非常非常的了不起，這是一個嶄新的領域，《Start-up》做為這樣全新領域的開創者，值得拿到 10 分或者更高的分數。

二、故事內容非常感人

這部戲，會讓我不由自主的，在很多故事劇情上落下眼淚，這真的是非常感人的一部戲。

三、可惜的是...

劇情內容，有幾個地方，太過脫離現實，有一些地方真得太過刻意。

此外，劇情的前後調性也不是非常連貫，《Start-up》會我覺得像是不同作者一起分工拼湊出的完整故事。

因為這些狀況，扣了一分。

== 演出/選角 ==

南道山的選角是 OK 的，但是，非常可惜的是，他的演出，在一些地方，實在是與故事的人設太過脫離。

他在一些地方，表現出像是時尚模特兒一般，這對我來講，完全是多餘的表現，實在是非常可惜！

因此，在這個部分，我只能給到 6 分。

== 音樂 ==

相當好聽，動人，沒有什麼可以挑剔。

== 重看性 ==

其他人怎麼做，我不清楚，但是我自己是已經收藏了本劇，因為很誠實給了 10 分。

== 整體評分 ==

就本身有志於新創事業的觀眾，我會非常推薦本劇，值得 10 分。

但是，由於故事劇情上述的一些缺點，整體來說，我給本劇 9 分的整體評價。

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Salah satu drama terbaik 2020

Start-Up secara garis besar menceritakan keinginan sekelompok anak muda yang ingin mencapai kesuksesan dalam startup (perusahaan rintisan).

Dalam mencapai kesuksesan, banyak hal dilewati seperti perjalanan berbatu, permasalahan percintaan di masa lalu dan saat ini, keluarga, hingga pertemanan.

Banyak hal sesungguhnya yang disajikan Start-Up selain cinta segitiga di antara pemain utamanya, mulai dari pengetahuan-pengetahuan dasar mengenai startup bagi kaum awam, inovasi-inovasi bidang teknologi, dan kondisi awal perusahaan rintisan yang dikonfirmasi orang Silicon Valley.

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Some bad dialogue, particularly towards the end, but pretty unique theme, fantastic 2 ML/FL

Towards the end some of the writing became pretty bad ("I like you because I like you"? Seriously? What are we, twelve? No, probably at that age you are past that level of sophistication). Triangle was pretty weak despite the good start/premise (timeskip that lasted years, and no action from one of the "angles"?) due to lousy script/writing. Last scene on the rooftop with 2nd ML was also pretty lame dialogue-wise (justification did not make any sense, they both went after her to help her, he was a step behind in acknowledging his feelings). Actually, I found the whole "I need someone to swoop in and save me like you did when we met" spiel a bit insulting to FL's character, given that she is supposed to otherwise be a strong and independent female character (and she is competent and generally with a good characterization).

Not sure about ease of mom, etc. acceptance back into the family (particularly because the question "would she/they have gone back had the husband/father not been so scummy?" remains, on the other hand they did this all "above board", she divorced, it's not like she cheated or anything, and I do think that In-Jae being a kid at the time is a distinction worth making when judging her actions), on the other hand she was so helpless/comic that you just couldn't dislike her, and the scenes were just not written with that kind of dramatic overtone, so it felt ok. To be honest, this is not something that bothered me the way it was presented. Essentially, I might have hated them in a more "dramatic" presentation, but here it was all very lighthearted, and when you see the mom trying to go in internet cafes, etc. or competing with kids for poster it's just funny... In-Jae's conflict is interesting, and she is a strong and competent female character that makes her own stand, you cannot help but respect her.

Had a bit of 2nd lead syndrome, would have been good to see it resolved a-la Hometown Cha Cha Cha, where 2nd lead was paired with someone else, in this case they had In-Jae that would have been perfectly positioned (at least after the last time skip), character-wise they are similar (serious, professional, elegant), she is basically the person he interacts with the most of the trio in the final timeskip (plus the other two are paired), could have also been just a hint as in the final episode of Itaewon Class... Nothing, which to me was again some lazy writing.

On the other hand, the drama was pretty unique (the only one of its genre), and I found the tech part rather believable (not Mr Robot levels, but they used Python ML libs when talking about ML which compared with the squiggly terminals you see in the average computer scene is miles ahead.

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Loved the story

I started to watch this drama because of the hype of the end of 2020 about it. Of course I love Suzy and Nam JooHyuk, I seen multiple of their dramas and to see them together was very entertaining. Overall the story was realistic yet unique and well put together. I loved all the character's personal growth as characters. I loved the love triangle and the friendship within the cast. Very well done and of course I loved the ending:)

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What I really appreciated was how any computer/technology use in this show was very accurate

The opening episode was so utterly amazing, so well shot, and where interesting storylines abounded. But then there was a lull where it wasn't going anywhere for a short while.

I'm glad I stuck with it though because it got a lot better after this short-lived lull.

It's kind of the way it goes with Kdrama in my experience; either they get you, or they don't, so it makes for a polarizing appreciation after-the-fact. Since they're generally all-in on the interpersonal parts and the character relationships, when you're not invested it suddenly starts to fall apart. Yet, when it does work, it's a unique watch experience that you can't really reproduce easily with other media from other countries, at least in my humble opinion. It's why I watch them (also makes for a nice change of pace from other genres).

So what about this? What I really appreciated was how any computer/technology use in this show was very accurate. Everything looks legit. I'm somewhat savvy with computers and it often drives me crazy how computers/hacking is portrayed in films and TV shows. It's always a farce just how ridiculous and not realistic it is, while here it's actually quite accurate. Maybe not as accurate as Mr. Robot, but real close. Real effort was put into portraying actual technology usage and the way it works, how developers actually work, like with Windows for instance, etc., so that was nice.

However, there is a huge problem with this show: It's got a bit of an acute case of capitalist propaganda (I say this only half-jokingly), and… they get bought out for $3 million. Sure they are sad because their dream has been taken from them, but at the same time… $3 million. You can do a lot with this. It's hard to relate to them when you know they just received a $3 million payout, even if it means they are separated. It opens up a lot of doors! So here we have a rather extreme example of a first world problem I would say.

Nonetheless, this drama has interesting story writing and character evolution that both manage to push its story forward in ways that are surprising and creative. Plus, the characters are a fun bunch to follow even though the whole thing is emotionally manipulative at times. Add to that a killer OST by Red Velvet (Future is stuck in my head).

Recommended!

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Overall solid series

So, to start with, the positive aspects of the show -the first episode is fantastic and immediately you feel emotionally invested. The OST, locations and cinematography are also top notch. You can see the high production value and the whole Sandbox location is very immersive.

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I know some people have criticised the business story-line as being too basic. I can understand when it's your field of expertise however as an outsider I wasn't overly bothered. Plus I was more interested in the romance and relationships anyway.

Shout-out to my favourite character - Dal-mi's grandmother - who is definitely the beating heart of the story. I was also impressed by Kim Joo-hun and Nam Da-reum in their brief appearances. The lead actors do a very good job although I wasn't entirely convinced by the romance.

Part of the reason is that Kim Seon-ho does such as a good job as the SML. Yes he is the dashing and successful but also flawed. The first episode sets up his background nicely and you can understand why he is emotionally unavailable. Ultimately I feel like the beginning of story supports Ji-pyeong and Dal-mi ending up as a couple. They have an emotional connection.

On that note, Nam Joo-hyuk is very solid as Do-san but I feel that he was miscast. He can clearly pull his weight in emotional scenes but I'm not sure he embodies the role of a geeky tech wiz. Full credit to Joo-hyuk for trying something different but I think he is too handsome and straight laced to nail the role. It would have been better served by someone like Choi Woo-shik.

For me, the plot started to stall around episode 11/12, after the reveal. The time lapse felt a bit clunky and the pacing was slowed down. I also started to lose interest in the side plots - Dal-mi's dispute with In-jae and In-jae dispute with her adopted father. Like many series I have watched, perhaps 12 episodes would have been better or if they had showed more of lead characters growing up.

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Sou da tocida Nan Do San mais que justo

MARAVILHOSO, DORAMA QUE TRAz UMA VIBE DIFERENTE, COM UM ENRREDO QUE ESPLORA A TECNOLOGIA, AMIZADES, AMOR, FAMILIA.
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