Wonderland (2024)

great movie about AI

I find the advancements in Artificial Intelligence both fascinating and concerning, so i enjoyed watching this film. Wonderland beautifully captures the complex interplay between AI and human emotions, basically humans’ need for genuine connection and belonging.

I found Wonderland so touching, and dramatic and times. i loved the cast and l the acting was good… BUT, I found the storytelling a bit confusing, which might be due to the poor translation (and sometimes lack of translation) of complex words. i think I would enjoy it more as a book rather than as a movie.

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Wonderland" - A Captivating Journey through Loss and Connection

Pros and cons: "Wonderland" is an amazing Korean movie drama that explores the idea of reconnecting with loved ones after they have passed away. The film presents a unique and creative way to deal with loss and grief, showing how technology can help people stay connected with those they've lost. The story is both imaginative and emotional, highlighting the challenges and benefits of this advanced system. The cast does an outstanding job, bringing their characters to life and making the audience feel deeply for them. The scenes where characters interact with their deceased loved ones are particularly touching and powerful.

However, the movie has one main flaw. The beginning is quite confusing because it jumps straight into the characters' lives without explaining the system that allows them to communicate with the deceased. This makes it hard to follow the plot until about halfway through. A clearer introduction to the system at the start would have made the movie much easier to understand. , "Wonderland" is a touching and creative movie with a unique concept and a great cast. Although it starts off confusing, it delivers a powerful and emotional experience that stays with you after watching it.

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it had potential

the plot itself is really interesting and even reminded me a lot of black mirror. the ai futuristic movies always catch my attention, especially since detroit become human is one of my favourite games and some aspects of the movie reminded me of that too…however,,

the movie had a terrible way of showing and unraveling its plot. half of the time i had no idea what was going on. and in the end the things i was curious about never really got answered?

the plot was confusing, the rules were confusing, gong yoo’s character going between reality and ai world was confusing (how was he the only one to be able to do that?) the plot with the grandma and grandson being left in the dust(really what was the point in their storyline?), and after the mother crashed the entire companys network…what did that even do? why did no one react to it?, and why was gong yoo’s character so curious and obsessed particularly by the mother?everything in the movie felt like it was added there just to fill the 2 hour mark. most of the stuff made no sense and were super vague and it felt so unsatisfying at the end?

i’ve gotten invested halfway through because like i said before its got a really good plot potential but it just seemed to be wasted…it tried to have interstellar vibes (imo) but it was just….so bad.

so many great actors in the movie made me think it wouldn’t be so bad…but i guess not.

the acting itself wasn’t bad but just…the entire movie and the plot…agh its so frustrating. definitely could’ve been done better!

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good watch

It was quite a good movie. Future possibilities of AI portrayed in a simple story, nothing too much.... The actors are all well known and they did their role justice, music was good specially as it was sung by the cast members, the artificial effects also didn't seem over the top. Overall it was a pleasant, simple but quite emotional film, so I don't see the reason for a low rating. Yes tbh it would've been good if it was made into a series because that would give the story much depth which it needs. As the movie shows the lives of people who were receiving the service but didn't really show the full story of the characters, just fragments which is why we couldn't really perceive their feelings, many things were left unexplained ......

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Como destrozarte de la manera más bonita

Hay escenas confusas en la película, pero creo que son necesarias para dar mayor profundidad a la trama y para que formes parte de ese mundo, para que entiendas con mayor facilidad lo que elles están sintiendo aunque no hayas vivido una experiencia similar.

Por otro lado, si has vivido esa experiencia, hace que vuelvas a vivirla pero te reconforta de alguna manera, o al menos eso me ha pasado a mi.

Si viviese en un mundo con algo así, creo que no lo usaría, por ello entendí la actitud de la madre de Bai Li. Su reacción al final de la película me hizo replantearme ciertas cosas.

Supe de la película por Suzy y Bogum y estoy agradecida de haberla visto. Lo han hecho genial, al igual que todo el cast. Escuchar a Gong Yoo en inglés ha sido maravilloso.

Dudo volver a verla sola, pero sí es una película que me encantaría recomendar a mis amigues y, si sucede, verla con elles y poder hablar sobre los pensamientos de cada une.

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Facilitating reunions with lost loved ones.

"Wonderland" boasts a fascinating premise: a virtual world facilitating reunions with lost loved ones.

It's the first film I've seen by director Kim Tae-Yong, whose filmography leans towards lower-rated projects.

While the concept is undeniably intriguing, the execution falters. The screenplay feels messy, and the direction lacks polish. This is especially disappointing considering the talented cast, including Bae Suzy and Park Bo-gum. Their performances elevate the material, but they can't quite salvage the film's shortcomings.

Here's the verdict:
"Wonderland" is a mixed bag. The strong central idea is overshadowed by messy pacing and direction. However, the stellar cast delivers, making it a watchable experience for those curious about the sci-fi romance angle. 

Recommendation:
Yes I recommend it with 7/10 rating.

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Tencologia

Acho que eu poderia falar horas sobre Wonderland e analisar minusiosamente esse filme. Pra falar num geral eu goste mas senti falta de uma explicação sobre o sung joon por exemplo, acho que ficou algumas pontas soltas (pelo menos pra mim)
Mas assim, fantástico essa realidade humana e virtual, queria dizer logo que sou totalmente contra, acho que ela avançar dessa forma pra manter uma pessoa "viva" ultrapassa o que seria aceitável, acho que nós humanos não estamos prontos para isso agora e nem num futuro próximo, temos que deixar ir para crescermos como pessoas e saber lidar com a dor, é a natureza da vida. Lembro bem de algo que vi ou escutei, a IA hoje somos nós que controlamos mas em algum momento ela vai nos controlar, ela vai ter tantas informações que não vai precisar que os humanos alimente ela mais, vai ter uma consciência própria e acho isso loucura de pensar né? Com certeza um dos filmes mais tristes pra mim, a Jung in mantendo o namorado dela ali e depois ele voltando, acredito que ela não conseguiu lidar com o fato de ter ele de volta e ao mesmo tempo tão diferente, acho que poderia ter deixado mais explícito como ele "mudou" pra gente entender melhor a situação dela nesse caso. Pra mim o filme deixou a desejar um pouco, mas é uma ótima crítica.

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Years wasted on this movie for this disappointing result

It’s an alright but confusing movie. If only they properly explained about wonderland services and their characters, it would be easier to understand what’s going in on the plot.
It’s hard to know which characters are real or virtual in some scenes like with Gong Yoo. I thought he was virtual, but then he was real, and then back to being virtual? It was difficult to tell who was real or not.
Tang Wei arc is beautifully well-written; however, Suzy & Bogum arc is good but ends abruptly, leaving questions about what happened to their relationship. The same goes for other arcs; most of them are undeveloped and have plot holes.
Suzy and Bogum kind of carried this movie because their chemistry caught everyone's attention. The movie is a huge letdown, but their acting and the cast saved it. Honestly what a waste of years on this project for it to end up like this.

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آیا باید غم رو بپذیریم یا خودمونو گول بزنیم

به خاطر کامنتای منفی که خونده بودم هربار تماشای این فیلم رو به تعویق مینداختم اما بالاخره دلو زدم به دریا و خب اگه هم بد میبود فقط قرار بود ۲ساعت از وقتمو بگیره.
ولی نه تنها اصلااااا بد نبود بلکه خیلی خیلی زیاد از دیدنش لذت برم و روزها ذهنمو مشغول خودش کرد.
میدونید چیه، گاهی وقتا، خصوصا تو این ژانر، یه اثر پیچیده میبینیم و بیشتر از خودش، از تلاش مغزمون واسه فهمیدنش لذت میبریم. و در مقابل چنین فیلمی ریلیز میشه که به سادگی یه برش از زندگی در یک دنیای الترناتیو که شاید هم اینده‌ی نزدیک خودمون باشه رو نشون میده و انقدر ملموسه واسمون که میگیم عیح، هیچ چیز خاصی نبود. حوصلمون سررفت. بی معنی بود، عجیب بود، کم بود…

کاملا حق میدم به سلایق متفاوت. خود من اسلایس عاو لایف پسندم.
ولی چیزی که راجع به این فیلم میخوام بگم اینه که تو مدت زمان ۲ساعت ما رو با داستان چندتا ادم که درگیر این فناوری شدن اشنا کرد، گوشه‌ای از زندگیشونو نشونمون داد، با یسری مفاهیم اشنامون کرد، یه‌چیزایی رو بهمون گوشزد کرد و بقیه‌شو سپرد به خودمون.
دنبال منطق و چرایی و چگونگی تو فیلمای فانتزی سای-فای گشتن اشتباهه.
تو این ژانر شما باید پیام داستان رو بگیرید.

اگه علاقه به لقمه‌های حاضر و اماده و پایان‌های “نقطه سرخط” دارید نبینید.
اگه سیر تفکر و تخیلتون تازه از پایان فیلم و سریال شروع میشه، این فیلم برای شماست.

• راجع به جزئیات داستان و برداشتی که خودم داشتم هم اینا رو میگم.
کاملا اسپویله، اگه ندیدید نخونید:

Spoiler

تو رابطه‌ی ته‌جو و جونگ‌این توجه کنید که ته‌جو نمرده بود و شخصیت ساختگیش تصورات جونگ‌این ازش بود نه خود واقعیش.(چون نشون داد افراد خودشون قبل مرگ اقدام‌میکنن و با تصورات و خواسته‌های خودشون دنیای بعد از مرگشونو میسازن. ولی در رابطه با ته‌جو همش خواسته‌های جونگ‌این بود چون قطعا ته‌جو طی یه حادثه‌ی ناگهانی به کما رفته بود)
اینکه هربار جونگ‌این اصرار داشت ته‌جو عوض شده در واقع به خاطر این بود که خودش عوض شده بود. جونگ‌این به اون ته‌جو بی نقص ایده‌آل خودش عادت کرده بود و نمیتونست اشتباهات ادم معمولی زندگیشو بپذیره ولی در نهایت فهمید اشتباه میکنه. گیجی کاراکتر ته‌جو هم به خاطر کما بود که هنوز درحال بهبود بود.
کاراکتر گونگ یو(اسمش رو یادم نمیاد)، وقتی آیدیش رو داد به بای‌لی، نشون داد نوشته روانشناس. به نظر من (تو یه تئوری) بخشی از سیستم بود. چون به قطعیت به این موضوع اشاره شد که اگه کسی بفهمه که مُرده ارور میده دنیاش. اتفاقی که در ادامه برای بای‌لی افتاد.

در رابطه با بای‌لی، ناخودآگاهش همیشه دنبال پیدا کردن “درخت زندگی” بود. دقت کنید که اینجا عشق مادرانه و از خود گذشتگی مطلق و خواست درونیش برای پیدا کردن مفهوم زندگی باعث شد منطق سیستم رو پشت سر بزاره و در واقع به روحی تبدیل بشه که از مرزهای این سیستم عبور کنه. و فکر میکنم شاید شخصیت گونگ‌یو هم همچین سرگذشتی داشته (تئوری دوم) چون صاحب واندرلند گویا یبار دیگه تجربه‌ی بازکردن سیستمش رو داشت.

در نهایت شما با این سوال اساسی روبه‌رو میشید که آیا تصاویر فرد فوت‌شده تو دنیای ساختگیش واقعا روح و خودآگاه اون شخصه یا تصویری که اطافیانش ازش به یاد دارن؟ فیلم تصمیم‌گیری رو به عهده‌ی ما گذاشته
فقط یادتون بیاد وقتی سیستم ارور داده بود، هری به هیون‌سو گفت هروقت کاراکتری رو حذف و دوباره ساخته تو کسری از ثانیه جعلی‌بودنش مشخص شده.
چی‌میشه اگه تو این پروسه‌ی پاک کردنداده، مرگ روح رخ بده…؟!

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too much going on for it just to be a film

i'm going to keep it sweet and short and say that this film had a mini series potential. there were a lot of things that i wish we would've seen. i feel like we got a half-baked conclusion for all the main story lines. yes, wonderland helped all of them to move on, but i really need them to find their true happiness outside of AI bubble. even the main couple's (TY and JI) story feels incomplete.
overall the concept of portraying AI as an device to deal with grieving/ reconnecting was interesting. writers would've gone more in dept with the wonderland, if it was a series. they could only portray the positive side of AI in the film , but i was curious about the negative side. fake remains fake in the end.
here is the list of scenes i wish that we would've seen
- how did wonderland's developers come up with an idea?
- did TY and JI ended up together?
- how is BL's family dealing with her death?
- HM's funeral (this grandma was the most precious character in the whole film)
one thing that bothered me personally was the amount of cameos. it was hard to focus on the film since it's filled with a lot of well known actors

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Should focus on 1 story

The concept is interesting and the actors are all great, but this movie should have 1 story. The issue with Wonderland is trying to present too many stories instead of focusing on one.
I particularly only cared about the couple story. The idea of Tae Joo waking up and Jeongin having to deal with the not so perfect reality while not wanting to let go of Wonderland Tae Joo was the best part of the movie. Two hours developing that story would make the movie so much better. But I would understand the movie also focusing only on the mom/daughter/grandmother story. That version could also feature a bit of the Wonderland employees, maybe just not trying to pull their family into the story too.
The other small Wonderland plots only waste time and don’t give us anything special.

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