An Epic Production in the same league as Nirvana in Fire
This drama is under rated on mydramalist. I say it is in the same league as Nirvana in Fire and a similar genre.It is a rarity to see Zhang Zi Yi in a drama. For those of you who have watched Crouching Tiger and Hidden Dragon which is an international success, she acted the rebellious girl who ran away from a marriage.
This drama is very well produced. The story is convoluted and captivating, and the cinematography is fantastic, with costumes and a good looking cast to match. The acting is excellent and the chemistry (or animosity) of the various couples are impressive. There are many sub-plots, each with suspense and mysteries that keep you glued to your seat to find out what is going to happen next. The ending theme song is melodious. The backdrop is beautiful and the battle scenes are very well choreographed.
It talks about Princess ShangYang who is the daughter of the Prime Minister Wang Lin. She is in love with the Third Prince and aspires to marry him. They are forced apart by the Prime Minister who wants to strengthen his power and she is betrothed to a outstanding general from a commoner background, Xiao Qi. She is forsaken on the wedding day as Xiao Qi leaves her behind in the capital. Xiao Qi is in a bid to avoid being roped into the political side of the Prime Minister although he has become rather fond of her after a couple of encounters. Being captured by Helan Zhen who is exacting a revenge on Xiao Qi is the start of their adventure and the Princess shifts her affection to him when he risks his life to rescue her.
I feel a bit sorry for the main villain in the story. He is overly ambitious, very cunning and ruthless. Yet he has this soft side to him as a father. He is a capable person but unfortunately has set his eyes on the wrong goal.
I think this drama is almost perfect. There only two things I do not like about this drama. The first is the length - it is too long. With 68 episodes, you can expect some draggy moments. But overall, it is well paced. The second is the ending. I think the ending is a very weak - the choice of the eventual emperor to ascend the throne is too cliche, perhaps influenced by the last dynasty. I do not think there are many of such emperors in history. With no strong empress dowager behind them, they would all be overthrown by their imperial relatives.
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The Kindest Princess, Not the Rebel Princess.
I just finished the drama, and I'm glad I didn't pay attention to the negative comments and gave it a try. It's a solid 9/10. Yes, it had its flaws, but considering the number of episodes, that's expected. It started strong, dipped in the second arc, and then picked up again, which is rare.People's complaints about the FL being in her 40s and playing a 15-year-old character are understandable since Zhang Ziyi looks her age. However, she was so great as the princess that I can't imagine anyone else in that role. The character needed to appear mature, graceful, and royal for most of the show, and she did that perfectly. From the way she walks to the way she talks, I believed she was a real princess.
Additionally, I would have complained if they had cast her opposite a young ML who looked like her son, but they actually brought in a fully grown-up cast with a strong and manly ML. The couple created such wonderful chemistry too.
I was absolutely mesmerized by the stunning costumes and the cinematic shots that resembled beautiful paintings. Watching this drama was a visual delight.
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Big Production, Great Acting but very SLOW
Completed - 11/1/2021"The Rebel Princess" indeed is a big-budget production, where Zhang Zi Yi herself invested in and recruited many world-class experts that she works with in the movies. The costumes, music, cinematography and sets are beautiful and elaborate. There is nothing you can criticize in its production value. The drama boasts a huge cast and their acting is superb. My #1 complaint of this drama is the slowness. It's not the plot that is slow and draggy, which happens in almost all long, historical C-drama. But I find the show itself is full of slow movements and dialogues (too many pauses). To binge-watch this slow 68-episode drama is very difficult. Maybe if I am watching this when it's broadcasted live and follow along week-to-week, I might have enjoyed this more.
Plot:
I enjoy the overarching main plot. There is a lot of court politics in this drama. Everyone wants a piece of the throne, whether they are royal or entitled to or not. All parents sacrifice their children for power, and they all do it in the name of "love". It's ironic that our main leads are not one of them, and yet they are probably the most qualified to bring peace to the nation. There are many subplots and I do enjoy how they weave together to contribute to the full story. As mentioned above, I personally find this drama to be too slow. If everything is sped up a little bit, it might be easier to binge-watch. However, I do understand that directors and producers are not making dramas for binge-watchers. But if you are a binge-watcher like me, just be aware. The drama also is narrated from FL/Ah Wu's point of view. It's a little interesting/weird that her monologues happen quite often, instead of just the beginning or ending of an episode. I feel that the pacing of the last 20 episodes is faster. Since the assassination, there is a lot more action. This event also started the strong finish of the drama. I greatly enjoy the ending (last 2-3 episodes) and feel that it brings closure to almost all storylines and characters.
Main Romance/Leads:
There are so many complaints about Zhang Zi Yi (ZZY) acting as an 15- year old girl. It is somewhat hard to forget that she's 42 (even if she's a beautiful and young-looking 42-year old woman). However, she only needs to act like a 15-year old for about 6-7 episodes. Once she's forced to marry our ML and all the events happened around that time, she is forced to grow up and doesn't act young anymore. In fact, I feel that her character grows up too fast and she becomes too mature, to match our older ML. A big selling point of this drama is our awesome male lead played by Zhou Yi Wei (ZYW). He is an amazing general and and an even better husband. The leads have a very mature and trusting relationship. ZYW brought this character to life. A minor complaint that I have is that we need more ZYW. There aren't enough scenes of him, and even less with him and ZZY. Our leads are separated from each other most of the time. Although the chemistry was good when they are together, their romance doesn't give me the same feels as in my other favorite shows "The Rise of the Phoenixes" or "Legend of Fu Yao". When they are together, they are too calm and mature. It's lacking some playfulness and lightness to this romance to hook me in.
Costumes & Production:
They must have spent a lot of their budget on costumes. I feel like ZZY has a new outfit each day or each episode. You can see they are elaborate and expensive (though I do not always like her style). I also particularly enjoy ZYW's black casual outfit. It fits him like a glove and he looks so dashing it in. Additionally, the red and black court officials outfits might be my most favorite court officials costumes in all of the historical dramas I've seen. It's such a nice combination - simple colors but work so well together when layered. All the ladies also have very nice costumes, but none can be compared to our female lead's. On the other hand, I am most impressed with the war and battle scenes. You can see that they spend money in hiring extras to be in these battles. When they say it's a big battle, you see a big battle and not CGI fake people or comics (looking at you "The Long Ballad"). The Mount Lianyu battle is especially amazing and greatly shot. That battle is one of my favorite events - from the white horse running to the black horse and towards the enemies, to the tragic death and self-sacrifice of the general, and the black horse kneeling down to get our male lead on its back. Everything is perfect.
OST & Dubbing:
I really enjoy the background music in this drama. The music complements the scenes so well. The few songs that were sung were nice as well and I especially like the duet. I don't feel that the songs were overplayed but just enough at the right time. One of my personal pet peeves is when the music is so loud that it overpowers the actors dialog. For the most part, we don't have this problem here. However, because of the live recording, I feel that at times, the music is a tiny bit louder than I like. Speaking of live recording, it's a pleasure to be able to listen to almost all actors real voice, either live or post-production dubbing. Only a few actors and actresses were dubbed, mainly because they do not have the Mainland Chinese accents.
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Hmmm .....There are 2 points that I quite like from this drama
1. The ost is quite good, huxia and zhou shen, really got the feeling of the song
2. when 500 ningshuo soldier went to luyuan valley to reinforcement,they said......
Not too bad,, the duration of the story is stable, everything is approximately 44,43,45 minutes,,,and every opening and closing episode is always related, it's rare for Chinese dramas like that, it seems the effort they put into this drama deserves appreciation
#The synopsis of the story is different from the title,, more to the opposite of the title
Telling the ambition of a noble official, but not being approved by his own family for the good of the kingdom citizen , don't know where the title "rebel princess" comes from?
At the beginning of the drama, my first thought was that this drama has very good details, but the atmosphere of the story is very flat even when what should be tense is very flat, the atmosphere is not tense at all, but only until episode 7? and then the detailed story is not very clear but the atmosphere of the story is more carried, not too boring but a bit lacking indeed
the acting is also very flat, and in my opinion the selection of the cast is not very good, you can say from the start the feeling I got was that the acting was too excessive with exaggerated expressions and body gesture, it felt very strange,, like songhuaien and wangxuan ,,,, Wangxuan doesn't completely not get the emotional feelings, but the body expression is a bit too much
The dialogue in the story seems inconsistent, every character and dialogue cast is inconsistent, the loyalty to whom is not clear, sometimes what they say in the dialogue and what they do is different, inconsistent! And the dialogue that is said is not clear, especially with words that are rarely used, without the mandarin sub it's a bit difficult to understand, because even with the english sub the translation is not always correct
And when Huyao helped Yuzhang Lord in Luyuan Valley, and put him on the horse's back, it was very clear that the horse's leg was pulled, and is it worthy to be called animal abuse? because in every historical drama there must be something like that happened, only this time it's obvious
And there are some stories that I don't quite understand the purpose of
1. What did emperor say to zitan when emperor is under house arrest by zilv?
2. ep48, if zitan doesn't rebel, then what soldier who is fighting outside the mausoleum? What is the purpose? I think zitan wants to rebel, that's why he wants to kill the imperial guard of the mausoleum,but he didnt
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Worth watching
Zhang Zi Yi and Zhou Yi Wei are both superb in portraying their characters, their chemistry is so good. I really enjoy watching this drama. The cinematography and costumes are beautiful; the production, plot, scenery, setting, story and acting are outstanding. I love how Awu's growth and maturity develop as the story progresses; her behavior before she was married to the general and after she became the general's wife. Overcoming so many, challenges, betrayal, and trials; their love and devotion to each other develops with honesty, respect, openness, trust and caring. This is how a strong and relationship is formed. Zhang Zi Yi is a great actress, extremely talented and very versatile; her acting is believable.Questa recensione ti è stata utile?
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How to survive royal family and court
Clearly this is a very amazing show but if you are no a very stubble some drama story type then this is not meant for you.Fl is truly definition of beauty with brain and its amazing I like how Awu is respected in the court and her brilliance is just outrageous .
Their love the main leads is sooo perfect I just love them.
the acting was top notch can't get any better chemistry
I really like that in this drama that there is no custom where the deal can be only touched my husband even the father or brothers can't touch .
the costumes are breath taking .
OMG! OMG! I loved it so much I cried when Song general died love it
According to rather this drama being an emotional rollercoaster it portrayed the awful condition(physically and mentally) that the royals lived in past.
In the beginning it was Avery amazing drama the FL was fun the court was thoughtful but after Awu got married you know there is a black time period go there kingdom that started .
Around episode 30 things were starting to get messy and at episode 40 I felt that you really required all the focus on understanding the concepts of previous episodes and connect them .
Its like how
the FLs mother just died the father then felt a bit of guilt but when she was alone he was crying for his concubine .
the FLs brother just became manipulative and over powering like his dad.
The King was killed by the Queen. like with..
Crazy the new Empress wants to kill XQ and Awu and also the Empress Dowager wants to divide the Generals army and kill the him too, Helan Tuo wants to kill the General with the Help of third Prince..
and also Awu is not being helpful here with meeting Helan Tuo to safe that spoiled brat...Su jn'er is useless as always...
General song have crush on Awu and also he is hiding something else from XQ..
Like at this point to may things are happening at the moment .
but then further it was a very well develop and scripted drama each an every character had its own story and a meaningful one loved it.
A GREAT SHOW
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All cast are the best. You will fall in love with main lead
This drama make me fall in love slowly slowly. I can’t stop thinking what is going to next Ep. Watch it please . I am not sure how many time I rewatching again and again . Time with the most favorite drama will not waste . I do love lead actor Xiaoxi a husband of Princess . If the real life have a guy like this how happy I am . He is very kind and loyal . Please have a happy ending for my happy ending. I want to be happy for them and for myself.The cast are amazing, why are they so good at acting.
The dress , costume OMG ? .
Anyway , for me I do love lead actress first but after I m watching it I love ❤️ lead actor too . Why he is to handsome, hard to handle if in real life that’s impossible.
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One of the best shows out there
I had to admit Zhang Ziyi was the main reason why I clicked this title. I thought she’d play a great empress or wife of a seasoned general. Was taken aback when she came up in 1st episode playing a teenager(15/16yo i think) instead. Wth? She looked like she could be the wife of the father! How ridiculous. And they didnt even put much effort in make up to have her look like a teenager. She looked bare faced throughout, although I admire her beauty, it’s definitely the beauty of a matured woman. I could accept if her role had been a princess in her 30s, but come on, to have 39yo to play a teenager/young adult role is pretty hilarious. She looked as old as the rest of the cast who plays the ministers and their consorts ??♀️However, I stuck through the show because it had a good storyline. She’s a talented actress, of course she could pull through despite the obvious seasoned look. I must say that this series is really fast paced, there are no wasted pointless scenes, and I can’t seem to put down the screen. One episode seduces me to continue to another and I feel bad when I had to put the screen down so my life wont be halted. I even brought the phone into the bathroom to watch while doing no 2 and bathing, finished bingeing all 68 episodes in 4 days!
Now this is the real palace conspiracy and politics is all about, it kept the audience on edge with one intense episode after another. I truly admire FL and ML. ML, although not handsome with rather big nose which bothered me during the earlier episodes, had me charmed with his outstanding performance. He looked perfect as the boorish man from a poor family background who spends his whole life on the battleground. He’s not flawlessly handsome with boyish look like the typical ML, he’s not ‘mad’ madly in love like any typical ML (and yet we can still feel his ultimate love for FL), and he carries the countenance of a courageous intelligent general and strategist really well. I like ML’s look with the goatie in the final parts though. He looked so much more handsome this way. I never liked men with face hair but he’s one of those men who looked extremely handsome with them.
This show is so good it even has one of the most intense, believable and astonishing battle scenes that I’ve seen on screen. My heart was pounding throughout the battle as I was anxious to see what would happen next. And whats more important is that they really go all out on the battle sequence, arrays, armors, heavy equipment and they don’t use CGI! Thats a pretty big WOW, right? The show really exudes magnificence and grandeur in every detail. I’m not sure how accurate to the book this show is, but I’m glad I didnt read the book beforehand else it wouldve ruinned the suspense.
Im just frustrated that in every scene of them reuniting, there are no touching moments. They just look at each other longingly and then the next scene came up where everyone’s safe. So frustrating. But honestly this is one of the best shows ive seen so far. Although I wouldnt rewatch the entire show, I definitely would rewatch some real good episodes. I am actually rewatching episodes with the main casts and battle scenes.
The only thing I dislike about this show is the fact that almost every other male character who is supposedly around the same age as FL’s character, and not related to her immediate family, seem to fall head over heels for her. Come on, they even made the supporting character to fall in love with her too! One of my pet peeves on dramas like this is when the FL seem to be the love interest of every other male characters, and they all obssess over her. Come on, so she’s a beauty, but to be the centre of everyone? So cliche!
Oh and I agree with other reviewers that the title doesnt really reflect on the story. Definitely not a Rebel Princess, FL was like one of the most obedient ones out there. Intelligent, yes, rebel, definitely a no. I guess they chose that title to make it intriguing. At least I clicked because of the title, then after reading the synopsis only knew that ZZY was in the lead casts. The story did not disappoint of course. One of the must watch shows out there and I would definitely recommend to people.
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Good story with some pointless characters
A lot of people criticized this show for casting older 40+ y/o actors to play teenagers. This is the least of the show's problems. Although I like Zhang Ziyi, she is not an extraordinarily beautiful woman as Wang Xuan is supposed to be, and of whose unmatched beauty we were constantly reminded throughout the show. There are plenty of prettier and younger actresses who would've been more suited for the role. For this reason, I think Ziyi was miscast. Everyone else was on point. It was very refreshing to see a more mature actor playing the role of a battle-hardened, undefeated general, instead of a 20+ y/o idol with mediocre acting skills and baby fat still intact.** SPOILERS **
The titular Wang Xuan/Awu "rebel princess" hit her peak character development half-way through the show. She matured from a care-free and spoiled princess to a level-headed young woman who learned the meaning of duty and country and was able to skillfully navigate through the court intrigue. Wang Xuan wielded the power of the Wang clan which shaped the course of the empire and produced future kings. Unfortunately, after Ma Zilong took the throne, her character was reduced to nothing more than a beautiful object of men's desires with an abnormally large number of braindead males chasing after her. Even the mighty Helan Zhen regressed from an arrogant warrior to a lovesick fool bringing her wedding dresses and begging her to love him. One of the most ridiculous twists was Song Huaien going through a 180, becoming a traitor, and wanting Awu to be his "empress". What a way to turn an interesting character into a cliche. The drama basically dumbed down from a political thriller-ish to an uninteresting soap opera regurgitating the same old tropes.
One of the dumbest things about the drama was a complete lack of insight from most characters. They either wanted Awu or to kill Xiao Qi. Wanting to kill Xiao Qi was an especially ridiculous plot idea because he was the only honorable and loyal subject who was the less likely to usurp the throne. Yet, all of the royal inbreds continuously plotted against him thinking he wanted power, which backfired in the most ridiculous way. Some of Wang Xuan's motivations were also very confusing. She tried to sit on two chairs at once - being Xiao Qi's wife and a member of the Wang family, which led to some questionable choices. One of those questionable choices was her fraternization with Helan Zhen, drinking and dancing with him, something that was completely inappropriate and put a wedge between her and Xiao Qi.
Zitan was one of the least interesting characters and the biggest waste of screen time. Tony Yang is an absolute eye candy, but his good looks weren't able to save the character from being unbearable. The writers could've done so much with him instead of reducing him to exist solely to pine after Awu. And even that was comical because he had one chance at the beginning of the show to be with her and he completely squandered it. Even Awu had to spell it out to him why he was unworthy because he had no spine and couldn't care less about anything other than his childhood crush. And, that hasn't changed throughout the show, which later led to a lot of people getting killed just so he could get into Awu's pants.
Contrary to the criticism, Wang Xuan and Xiao Qi's big production in the throne room to get Zitan to confess his crimes was actually quite clever. I did not particularly enjoy her spending so much time with Zitan afterwards trying to save him, but I attribute it to her still caring about him as her childhood friend. This was later confirmed in her conversation with her father when she told him that her love for Xiao Qi and Zitan was "different".
The most complex character was Wang Lin. Cynical, pragmatic, and unrelenting, he understood the complexities of ruling a country and the responsibility that came with it. Usurping the throne wasn't just his blind quest for power but to also remove an incompetent ruler and to bring stability to the empire. He was truly the only person who was fit to sit on the throne.
The drama did a good job at characterizing the relationship between Wang Xuan and Xiao Qi. This is probably due to the fact that the characters were played by mature actors and not idols. Their relationship had chemistry, meaningful interactions, mutual understanding, and respect. The drama did a good job at flushing out why Wang Xuan fell in love with Xiao Qi and let go of her childhood love for Zetan. Zetan represented her care-free childhood. Xiao Qi represented mature love where she learned duty, loyalty, and the hardships of life. She appreciated Xiao Qi for his bravery and heroism and looked down on Zetan's continued callousness and immaturity. I appreciate the fact that the drama did not go down the cliche route creating a love triangle between the three of them.
The ending was ok, although I wanted to see stricter justice served against the characters who committed crimes. Overall, the drama was very entertaining for the first half and for the last 10-15 episodes, but it could've gone without some storylines. And, I definitely wanted to see more of Xiao Qi, instead of the abominable Helan Zhen arc and Zitan's forlorn expressions.
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conspirations à tous les étages
C'est une très belle série, faite avec beaucoup de moyen. Les batailles, les décors, les costumes, les bijoux sont superbes.Le casting est un casting mature ce qui change des c/k dramas habituels et pourtant cela passe très bien.
Les acteurs sont parfaits, les mauvais (et ils sont nombreux) sont délicieusement détestables à souhait. Les bons, enfin avant qu'ils ne tournent casaque, sont bien joués également. Il ne doit pas y avoir plus de 5 /6 personnes dans la série qui, à un moment ou un autre, ne mente, trahisse, tue, complote ou violente... et il y a beaucoup de surprises !
Il y a également de jolies scènes de tendresse et d'amour et surtout il y a SPOILER
un beau Happy Ending !!!!
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Alternative title: Love in Times of Royal Conflicts
OVERALLThis is a feel-good drama, not because of fluff or comedy (there's literally none in here!) but because it has a "good always wins" plot that gives you little frustration, and as a bonus, is actually gripping enough to binge. Watch it if 1) you like strong female leads, 2) you're picky about production and you need good cinematography, 3) you enjoy political intrigues. Think twice about it if 1) you like well-written and emotional love stories, 2) you like when the good guys sweat a bit, 3) you prefer dramas with a light mood/feel.
THE STORY
The best thing about this drama is its production. You can tell this was produced by someone used to film production because they really made clever, significant choices with lighting, sound and décor. All of it converges to create a dark and depressing mood/feel, which echoes the claustrophobic and tragic environment of nobility and royalty. And that's what the story is essentially about; the toxicity of the political sphere in Great Cheng era. (Just needed to fangirl over technical stuff!)
The plot is also, for the most part, quite fine. Political intrigues are coherent and they level up as the drama progresses (which is great because sometimes schemes get dumber as the story evolves). Characters have depth too, even (and especially) secondary ones. The title is misleading, main girl isn't really rebellious (she sometimes even comes off as submissive), but she is definitely strong and mature. Main guy is quiet but he's not the cold brooding type (yay!), he's actually pretty nurturing and kind. The biggest problem with The Rebel Princess is that the romance is meant to be an important part of the drama but it doesn't convince at all. Part of it is lack of chemistry between the leads, but part of it is the fact that the love story is SO underdeveloped. The protagonists go from strangers to lovers in the space of...1 episode? And then spend the rest of the drama being deeply in love. We definitely needed to see the process of them learning to care for one another. Plus, conflicts are important for relationship growth, and it doesn't feel like there's any growth in the OTP because they literally never fight.
Apart from the relationship, another downside to the drama is the way the good guys ALWAYS win. Except for once in the drama, you never really get the impression that they took on a serious blow. This isn't terrible, it makes for a more enjoyable watch, but it feels somewhat unrealistic. The ending (second half of the last episode) is also very rushed and incoherent. THAT BEING SAID, the drama is totally binge material. It's gorgeous and the never-ending schemes keep you watching until the last minute. Even though the OTP isn't swoon-worthy, you still end up rooting for them.
THE ACTING
Other reviews already mentioned the age situation, so I won't - plus, to be honest, I don't think it matters. Sure, the cast is older than the characters they play, but they look compatible with one another, so what's the problem? In general, the cast did well, especially Zhang Ziyi, but in terms of chemistry between actors (not just between the main leads but also with the secondary cast) I didn't feel much. Dramas like this highlight how acting isn't just about individual performance, it's also about the dynamics with other actors. In this case, they weren't that great. It doesn't stop you from enjoying the drama, though, so I guess it's okay.
THE MUSIC
It was fine, though there wasn't any song I felt like listening to on my own. Honestly, I was just grateful the music wasn't excessive and loud like in some other C-dramas (*cough* Oh My General *cough*).
REWATCH VALUE
It's quite high. Not super high because the drama is lowkey depressing, but it does end well and it is an enjoyable watch so I just know I'll watch it again.
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Princes and Princesses are too old for these roles
It's obvious the roles for the young royals should have gone to younger actors.Princess Wu has not even had her coming of age ceremony which means she's around 14 years old. The actress is a 40 year old acting like a little girl, even the mannerisms are weird and exaggerated.
Thes rest if actors and actresses are also supposed to be at most 25 years old but they all look older.
As for the story, it's too long and drawn out. A lot of extended story telling that is completely unnecessary.
Overall the production quality is top notch.
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